The Habs are in DEEP trouble

This is scary.

ive heard anything from coke, to rape charges on price... whatever it is it's gonna rock the foundation and the habs will tank. i feel for their fans and the organisation. they deserved better for their 100th...

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/columnists/journal/pagnotta.html

That was a free translation. Can you tell? :geek:

Montreal media overhypes the story. Wow, does this Habs team remind me of last year's Sens. Standings free-fall, drug rumours, prostitute rumours, etc.

504Heater wrote:That was a free translation. Can you tell? :geek:

The Roman defender Hamrlik

Umm, yeah.

The details about the article in La Presse are now being discussed. One commentator from Montreal suggested the Kostitsyn brothers were hanging with Pasquale Mangiola because they believed Mangiola would provide their family back in Belarus protection from mafia elements in their homeland.

A very, very messy situation now matter how one looks at it.

It is, of course, not the first time pro athletes have found themselves associated with persons in the world of organized crime.

But you have to wonder, given all of the incidents that have taken place over the years, why teams who invest millions of dollars in these athletes, don't provide better guidance for these young, and suddenly wealthy, men.

davetherave wrote:The details about the article in La Presse are now being discussed. One commentator from Montreal suggested the Kostitsyn brothers were hanging with Pasquale Mangiola because they believed Mangiola would provide their family back in Belarus protection from mafia elements in their homeland.

A very, very messy situation now matter how one looks at it.

It is, of course, not the first time pro athletes have found themselves associated with persons in the world of organized crime.

But you have to wonder, given all of the incidents that have taken place over the years, why teams who invest millions of dollars in these athletes, don't provide better guidance for these young, and suddenly wealthy, men.

Wow, is this really all true DTR? wow, that has to be incredibly concerning for the Kostitsyn boys being over here, worried about their families. Can't say I blame them one bit about being worried, and yeah, sheesh, this would affect your play, but seeking out this Mangiola guy, which I will be the first one to admit, I am in NB, there is like zero organized crime that originates from here, but again, back to Mangiola, he sounds like bad news if they seek this guy for protection for their families. of course, you probably find this guy at some VIP section of some bar in Montreal am sure of it.

Agree with the guidance for young players with new money, didn't Sid the Kid move in with Lemieux when he was first drafted, good positive influence on a young kid. I am not saying make it mandatory, but maybe when a new kid comes along, one of the older players should take the kids under his wing, watch over him, keep their nose clean. I am sure the same problem happens everywhere and am sure some of you guys said the Ottawa players were into things they shouldn't be (ie drugs), but I could be wrong on that.

This is pretty interesting... but I was fully expecting much bigger news. This seems like they are making more out of it than it really is.

am hoping this translation is better, had one of my french colleagues translate the article for me, maybe better than what google translates. It still sounds like a lot of fluff.


The newspaper La presse publishes today an embarrassing document on the brothers Andrei & sergei Kostitsyn that presumably has ties with a member of organized crime



The presumed criminal Pasquale Mangiola, 38 years old was arrested for drug trafficking and would have also been the link between different organization.



During the investigation of the police operation named Axe, several phone conversations where taped and a lot of those conversation he was talking with the brothers Kostitsyn.



The Canadians players came back from pittburgh around midnight and no arrest were made.



According to the newspaper La Presse Mangiola is a very good friend of the brothers.



The 38 year old man would help the players ( brothers) going out for night life partying with girls and luxury cars



Defence man Roman Hamrlik also would have ties with Mangiola. They were often spotted together in Montréal bars.



The newspaper questioned Andrei Kostitsyn on his relation with Mangiola after the penguins match in Pittsburgh and the oldest of the brothers confirmed they knew who was Mangiola but really didn’t know him that well and didn’t know anything about his life.



Don Meehan, agent of the brothers said he didn’t know that individual.



On an additional note Meehan and Canadians management wanted to add to this that Sergei Kostitsyn being sent in Hamilton was strictly due to hockey.

Unless Habs players are getting arrested for dealing drugs or something else... this is a non-story.

shabbs wrote:Unless Habs players are getting arrested for dealing drugs or something else... this is a non-story.

Definitely agree Shabbs, the montreal media will grasp anything for a story, sheesh.

Well, for sure, this story gets amplified by the press.

However, the real question is how and why the Kostitisyn brothers got involved with an individual with links to organized crime and the Hells Angels.

And how could the Montreal Canadiens organization let things get to this point?

SensFan71 wrote:

davetherave wrote:The details about the article in La Presse are now being discussed. One commentator from Montreal suggested the Kostitsyn brothers were hanging with Pasquale Mangiola because they believed Mangiola would provide their family back in Belarus protection from mafia elements in their homeland.

A very, very messy situation now matter how one looks at it.

It is, of course, not the first time pro athletes have found themselves associated with persons in the world of organized crime.

But you have to wonder, given all of the incidents that have taken place over the years, why teams who invest millions of dollars in these athletes, don't provide better guidance for these young, and suddenly wealthy, men.

Wow, is this really all true DTR? wow, that has to be incredibly concerning for the Kostitsyn boys being over here, worried about their families. Can't say I blame them one bit about being worried, and yeah, sheesh, this would affect your play, but seeking out this Mangiola guy, which I will be the first one to admit, I am in NB, there is like zero organized crime that originates from here, but again, back to Mangiola, he sounds like bad news if they seek this guy for protection for their families. of course, you probably find this guy at some VIP section of some bar in Montreal am sure of it.

Agree with the guidance for young players with new money, didn't Sid the Kid move in with Lemieux when he was first drafted, good positive influence on a young kid. I am not saying make it mandatory, but maybe when a new kid comes along, one of the older players should take the kids under his wing, watch over him, keep their nose clean. I am sure the same problem happens everywhere and am sure some of you guys said the Ottawa players were into things they shouldn't be (ie drugs), but I could be wrong on that.

For what it's worth SF, my old man's a retired RCMP, and trust me, there's no shortage of organized crime thriving well in NB.

I have to agree with DTR: one day you're playing hockey for the love of it, and then just as suddenly, you're swimming in cash from endorsements to contracts, and these guys like all young men, are in AWE! With all the $$ spent by organizations, you mean to tell me they've never thought to keep a shrink or something on retainer just in case you see your 'prized investment' falling by the wayside?!?

Cronie wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

davetherave wrote:The details about the article in La Presse are now being discussed. One commentator from Montreal suggested the Kostitsyn brothers were hanging with Pasquale Mangiola because they believed Mangiola would provide their family back in Belarus protection from mafia elements in their homeland.

A very, very messy situation now matter how one looks at it.

It is, of course, not the first time pro athletes have found themselves associated with persons in the world of organized crime.

But you have to wonder, given all of the incidents that have taken place over the years, why teams who invest millions of dollars in these athletes, don't provide better guidance for these young, and suddenly wealthy, men.

Wow, is this really all true DTR? wow, that has to be incredibly concerning for the Kostitsyn boys being over here, worried about their families. Can't say I blame them one bit about being worried, and yeah, sheesh, this would affect your play, but seeking out this Mangiola guy, which I will be the first one to admit, I am in NB, there is like zero organized crime that originates from here, but again, back to Mangiola, he sounds like bad news if they seek this guy for protection for their families. of course, you probably find this guy at some VIP section of some bar in Montreal am sure of it.

Agree with the guidance for young players with new money, didn't Sid the Kid move in with Lemieux when he was first drafted, good positive influence on a young kid. I am not saying make it mandatory, but maybe when a new kid comes along, one of the older players should take the kids under his wing, watch over him, keep their nose clean. I am sure the same problem happens everywhere and am sure some of you guys said the Ottawa players were into things they shouldn't be (ie drugs), but I could be wrong on that.

For what it's worth SF, my old man's a retired RCMP, and trust me, there's no shortage of organized crime thriving well in NB.

I have to agree with DTR: one day you're playing hockey for the love of it, and then just as suddenly, you're swimming in cash from endorsements to contracts, and these guys like all young men, are in AWE! With all the $$ spent by organizations, you mean to tell me they've never thought to keep a shrink or something on retainer just in case you see your 'prized investment' falling by the wayside?!?

I guess it shouldn't surprise me Cronie, there is one shady individual in Moncton that runs all the strip clubs, and if you have been around Moncton, you know who I am talking about, he definitely have very questionable ties and other business running under the radar, not proven I believe, but definitely speculated.

I used to live in Moncton actually, and yes I know EXACTLY who you are referring to.

Basically, the easiest way to look at it is, no stripper or strip club or any designer drug or weed in this province comes from anywhere else than the angels... Somewhere in the mix, their fingerprints are ALL over it.

Ah, but that's WAY off topic... As for the Habs, I can't wait to see what develops. I don't care if the media are blowing it up, I want to see them crash and burn, and if it means NOT hearing an ole for even a week, it's worth it!

Cronie wrote:I used to live in Moncton actually, and yes I know EXACTLY who you are referring to.

Basically, the easiest way to look at it is, no stripper or strip club or any designer drug or weed in this province comes from anywhere else than the angels... Somewhere in the mix, their fingerprints are ALL over it.

Ah, but that's WAY off topic... As for the Habs, I can't wait to see what develops. I don't care if the media are blowing it up, I want to see them crash and burn, and if it means NOT hearing an ole for even a week, it's worth it!

I live in Moncton!!! Pretty cool!