Your Lineup for 2009/2010 - What do you think it will look like?

504Heater wrote:No Shannon?

Sure, make him the 13th forward.

Neely4Life wrote:
Phillips/Ohlund
A Train/Bell
Lee/Smith
Picard

Seeing Ohlund on the top pairing and Brendan Bell on the second gave me physical pain.

On the plus side, Taylor Hall will look d@mn good in a Sens uniform.

This thing again huh? Well, I'd do this:

OUT:
Vermette
McAmmond
Smith
Kuba

IN:
Ohlund
Hamhuis

WHAT I'D DO:
At the deadline, I'd trade Vermette and Kuba to Nashville for Dan Hamhuis + a pick, maybe 2nd round...probably 3rd

Nashville needs the scoring touch upfront and replace Hamhuis with a very capable Kuba. Sure Kuba leaves, but they still have vermette.

In the offseason, I'd sign Ohlund for about 5 mil when everyone is fussing over Bouwmeester, who will probably go for around 8mil, and everyone will talk about how risky the deal was.
Ohlund is a solid, veteran, puck moving D who happens to be swedish *cough Karlsson* cough Hedman!?*

We have now addressed the defense issue, but still have some gaps up front. I think the locks to make the team right now are Regin and Bass. Shannon and Brendan Bell can walk from their RFA status

With about 3.5 mil to spend, I'd go after a UFA like Bertuzzi, Erik Cole (eek), Bobby Holik and Brian Gionta.

You put this guy on the second line with Fisher, and Foligno, and you have a solid, solid, 2nd line that acts just as much as an energy line.


Alfredsson-Spezza-Heatley
Fisher-Foligno-UFA
Donovan-Kelly-Regin
Neil-Bass-Ruutu

Ohlund-Lee
Phillips-Volchenkov
Hamhuis-Schubert

Elliot
Auld

mmmm

asq2 wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:
Phillips/Ohlund
A Train/Bell
Lee/Smith
Picard

Seeing Ohlund on the top pairing and Brendan Bell on the second gave me physical pain.

On the plus side, Taylor Hall will look d@mn good in a Sens uniform.

If Bell, Lee, and Picard are all playing mins like this year, we are done. Bell and Lee should be a 6 D man at best. Picard isnt even injured anymore and cant crack the lineup, he is awful.

Jordo wrote:This thing again huh? Well, I'd do this:

OUT:
Vermette
McAmmond
Smith
Kuba

IN:
Ohlund
Hamhuis

WHAT I'D DO:
At the deadline, I'd trade Vermette and Kuba to Nashville for Dan Hamhuis + a pick, maybe 2nd round...probably 3rd

Nashville needs the scoring touch upfront and replace Hamhuis with a very capable Kuba. Sure Kuba leaves, but they still have vermette.

In the offseason, I'd sign Ohlund for about 5 mil when everyone is fussing over Bouwmeester, who will probably go for around 8mil, and everyone will talk about how risky the deal was.
Ohlund is a solid, veteran, puck moving D who happens to be swedish *cough Karlsson* cough Hedman!?*

We have now addressed the defense issue, but still have some gaps up front. I think the locks to make the team right now are Regin and Bass. Shannon and Brendan Bell can walk from their RFA status

With about 3.5 mil to spend, I'd go after a UFA like Bertuzzi, Erik Cole (eek), Bobby Holik and Brian Gionta.

You put this guy on the second line with Fisher, and Foligno, and you have a solid, solid, 2nd line that acts just as much as an energy line.


Alfredsson-Spezza-Heatley
Fisher-Foligno-UFA
Donovan-Kelly-Regin
Neil-Bass-Ruutu

Ohlund-Lee
Phillips-Volchenkov
Hamhuis-Schubert

Elliot
Auld

mmmm

Definitely like the Hamhuis idea (not sure if Nashville would) but then why would we put him on the third pairing?

Also, I don't know why people are looking at Ohlund. He's way over the hill IMO. Nowhere near what he once was.

Ohlund is still a solid player, tons of expierence, and can still skate and shoot. He would def be a good pick up.

Jordo wrote:This thing again huh? Well, I'd do this:

OUT:
Vermette
McAmmond
Smith
Kuba

IN:
Ohlund
Hamhuis

WHAT I'D DO:
At the deadline, I'd trade Vermette and Kuba to Nashville for Dan Hamhuis + a pick, maybe 2nd round...probably 3rd

Nashville needs the scoring touch upfront and replace Hamhuis with a very capable Kuba. Sure Kuba leaves, but they still have vermette.

In the offseason, I'd sign Ohlund for about 5 mil when everyone is fussing over Bouwmeester, who will probably go for around 8mil, and everyone will talk about how risky the deal was.
Ohlund is a solid, veteran, puck moving D who happens to be swedish *cough Karlsson* cough Hedman!?*

We have now addressed the defense issue, but still have some gaps up front. I think the locks to make the team right now are Regin and Bass. Shannon and Brendan Bell can walk from their RFA status

With about 3.5 mil to spend, I'd go after a UFA like Bertuzzi, Erik Cole (eek), Bobby Holik and Brian Gionta.

You put this guy on the second line with Fisher, and Foligno, and you have a solid, solid, 2nd line that acts just as much as an energy line.


Alfredsson-Spezza-Heatley
Fisher-Foligno-UFA
Donovan-Kelly-Regin
Neil-Bass-Ruutu

Ohlund-Lee
Phillips-Volchenkov
Hamhuis-Schubert

Elliot
Auld

mmmm

With all due respect Jordo, I don't think that will be the extent of the guys leaving. I'd expect of one Heatley, Spezza or Fisher gone. I'm not advocating either way (my feelings are quite well known what order those 3 should go), but I think they need to spread the butter around the toast a little more evenly.

I like Ohlund as a player and he's capable at both ends, and would be an excellent mentor for Karlsson and dare I say Hedman (god willing). Like you, I'd rather sign him for a couple years to help transition to a younger defence with Wiercioch and Karlsson.

I suspect that we'll be adding a body or two from Bingo, and if I was a betting man, I'd say Bass and two of Regin, Zubov or Shannon. Add to that, potentially a guy like MSP who might be able to make the jump right away, and we are looking at getting younger. Therefore I see Vermette, McAmmond, Neil, and one of the 3 I mentioned earlier. You'd also need to include any return , if any, in any trades we may do.

I think Gionta may go for more than 3.5 million. The Canucks seem to have a hard-on for this guy. If he hits the market, I'd expect they will be players. Personally, I have no interest in a guy like Holik who is good for about 5 goals. Bertuzzi may be too expensive as well. I don't see us as major players in UFA anyway.

Neely4Life wrote:Ohlund is still a solid player, tons of expierence, and can still skate and shoot. He would def be a good pick up.

Not from what I've seen of him recently. Or what many Canuck fans I know have been saying.

Ohlund reeks of another Redden scenario IMO. Used to be a great defenceman, the league hasn't really heard about his decline and he'll probably make a killing on the UFA market.

asq2 wrote:

Jordo wrote:This thing again huh? Well, I'd do this:

OUT:
Vermette
McAmmond
Smith
Kuba

IN:
Ohlund
Hamhuis

WHAT I'D DO:
At the deadline, I'd trade Vermette and Kuba to Nashville for Dan Hamhuis + a pick, maybe 2nd round...probably 3rd

Nashville needs the scoring touch upfront and replace Hamhuis with a very capable Kuba. Sure Kuba leaves, but they still have vermette.

In the offseason, I'd sign Ohlund for about 5 mil when everyone is fussing over Bouwmeester, who will probably go for around 8mil, and everyone will talk about how risky the deal was.
Ohlund is a solid, veteran, puck moving D who happens to be swedish *cough Karlsson* cough Hedman!?*

We have now addressed the defense issue, but still have some gaps up front. I think the locks to make the team right now are Regin and Bass. Shannon and Brendan Bell can walk from their RFA status

With about 3.5 mil to spend, I'd go after a UFA like Bertuzzi, Erik Cole (eek), Bobby Holik and Brian Gionta.

You put this guy on the second line with Fisher, and Foligno, and you have a solid, solid, 2nd line that acts just as much as an energy line.


Alfredsson-Spezza-Heatley
Fisher-Foligno-UFA
Donovan-Kelly-Regin
Neil-Bass-Ruutu

Ohlund-Lee
Phillips-Volchenkov
Hamhuis-Schubert

Elliot
Auld

mmmm

Definitely like the Hamhuis idea (not sure if Nashville would) but then why would we put him on the third pairing?

Also, I don't know why people are looking at Ohlund. He's way over the hill IMO. Nowhere near what he once was.

I can't agree there. Ohlund is still servicable and would be an upgrade offensively over anything we've got right now. He's also not a liability in his own zone.

asq2 wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Ohlund is still a solid player, tons of expierence, and can still skate and shoot. He would def be a good pick up.

Not from what I've seen of him recently. Or what many Canuck fans I know have been saying.

Ohlund reeks of another Redden scenario IMO. Used to be a great defenceman, the league hasn't really heard about his decline and he'll probably make a killing on the UFA market.

Ive watched him, and he isnt putting up the points he used to, but he is still able to get up the ice, hit, fight, defend, and would be a good to have around with Karlsson here.

I'm just concerned that he's breaking down.

I agree that he's a good role model for Karlsson, but I wouldn't give him over $4 to maybe $4.5 million and I'm sure some team (the Rangers or Flyers) would match that, and have the added selling point of actually being competitive.

asq2 wrote:I'm just concerned that he's breaking down.

I agree that he's a good role model for Karlsson, but I wouldn't give him over $4 to maybe $4.5 million and I'm sure some team (the Rangers or Flyers) would match that, and have the added selling point of actually being competitive.

I think Ohlund is worth more than that to the Sens for a number of reasons.

I think is going to overpay for Ohlund. I really hope it isn't Murray. I agree with the Redden comparison. If the Sens are going to spend serious money on a defenceman, I would much rather it be on a guy is going to hit his prime years, not someone coming out of them.

hemlock wrote:
I can't agree there. Ohlund is still servicable and would be an upgrade offensively over anything we've got right now. He's also not a liability in his own zone.

Ohlund may be serviceable, but an upgrade over anything we have now offensively?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=737

I'm not dissing him or anything, because I simply don't know enough about him, but he certainly doesn't put up points.

asq2 wrote:I'm just concerned that he's breaking down.

I agree that he's a good role model for Karlsson, but I wouldn't give him over $4 to maybe $4.5 million and I'm sure some team (the Rangers or Flyers) would match that, and have the added selling point of actually being competitive.

The Rangers have no business even inquiring about a UFA this summer. They've arse slammed themselves so badly it isn't even funny (it is actually). Gomez (7.3), Drury (7), Diddle Wade Redden hahahahahah (6.5), Roszival (5), Lundqvist (6.9). 33 million on 5 players - only 1 of which is truly worth it (and the rest are unmoveable). Hahaha. Die commies.

The Flyers are gonna have cap issues too. They could make some move and at least they're Diddle awesome. They need a goalie though.

Mojo wrote:I think is going to overpay for Ohlund. I really hope it isn't Murray. I agree with the Redden comparison. If the Sens are going to spend serious money on a defenceman, I would much rather it be on a guy is going to hit his prime years, not someone coming out of them.

You are correct. Pay for a Bouwmeester if we are even in the mix. Take an Ohlund if the dollars are right and there are no other players that are similar in age to our core (25-29). I think he is a nice player but I am not willing to overpay personally.

Neely4Life wrote:If Lee is on the top pairing, might as well just trade anyone not named Alfi for picks. Not a shot we finish ahead of the Leafs and prob worse than this year.

I am going to keep note of today's date...for once Neely I completely agree with you.

MurderOnIce wrote:
You are correct. Pay for a Bouwmeester if we are even in the mix. Take an Ohlund if the dollars are right and there are no other players that are similar in age to our core (25-29). I think he is a nice player but I am not willing to overpay personally.

I wanna be in the mix so badly...