Not trolling here... but some reality is needed I think.
I am seeing trade suggestions like Vermette + 2nd for Horton? (edit: misquote on my oroginal post) ... financial reasons being part of that equation.
I even saw Vermette and Fisher for Horton and Bouwmeester (admittedly PKC seemed to know he was being "optimistic")
But seriously guys...
Vermette 26, Cap: 2.763, Career NHL .442 PPG +/- +17
Fisher 28, Cap: 4.2, Career NHL .508 PPG +/- +33
Ponikarovsky 28, Cap: 2.105, Career NHL .478 PPG +/- +48
Antropov 28, Cap: 2.5, Career NHL .559 PPG +/- +63
If I came on here and suggested Ponikarovsky and Antropov for Bouwmeester and Horton, I would get laughed off of this board. You know I would.
Yet, by the numbers, I wouldn't trade Ponikarovsky and Antropov for Fisher and Vermette.
The problem I think is that you dont realize that Vermette may be trade bait but not for a first line player, forward or D, and Fisher... well I think it is time people accepted that he is WAY overpaid for his production. If I am Jacques Martin both of these guys don't get me either Horton or Bouwmeester.
If Ottawa needs a shake-up, and they do, they aren't going to do it by dumping overpaid underperforming players for 1st line players from other teams... Leafs fans have been ridiculed for suggestions no worse than these ones for years!!
I am seeing trade suggestions like Vermette + 2nd for Horton? (edit: misquote on my oroginal post) ... financial reasons being part of that equation.
I even saw Vermette and Fisher for Horton and Bouwmeester (admittedly PKC seemed to know he was being "optimistic")
But seriously guys...
Vermette 26, Cap: 2.763, Career NHL .442 PPG +/- +17
Fisher 28, Cap: 4.2, Career NHL .508 PPG +/- +33
Ponikarovsky 28, Cap: 2.105, Career NHL .478 PPG +/- +48
Antropov 28, Cap: 2.5, Career NHL .559 PPG +/- +63
If I came on here and suggested Ponikarovsky and Antropov for Bouwmeester and Horton, I would get laughed off of this board. You know I would.
Yet, by the numbers, I wouldn't trade Ponikarovsky and Antropov for Fisher and Vermette.
The problem I think is that you dont realize that Vermette may be trade bait but not for a first line player, forward or D, and Fisher... well I think it is time people accepted that he is WAY overpaid for his production. If I am Jacques Martin both of these guys don't get me either Horton or Bouwmeester.
If Ottawa needs a shake-up, and they do, they aren't going to do it by dumping overpaid underperforming players for 1st line players from other teams... Leafs fans have been ridiculed for suggestions no worse than these ones for years!!
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