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If it gets to arbitration he's gone. Teams cannot trade a player who is awaiting arbitration, but they can be traded after the hearing. I think you were thinking about matching an offer sheet -- you cannot trade that player for one year.

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:ZBad is indeed staying in Ottawa this summer to work out.

http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/nhl/senatorsextra/zibanejad-changing-up-summer-routine

Yes, we all read that.  Back in April.  Has there been any confirmation since then?

What the hell is wrong with you?  You now want a follow-up story to see if ZBad is sticking to what he said?

What the hell is wrong with me? He said all the right things -- when have we heard that before. Guess we'll see in September if he followed through on his promises.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

PTFlea wrote:If he goes to arb, when can we sign him to an extension after the ruling?

If he goes to arbitration, it doesn't matter, because he'll never sign another contract with Ottawa after that.

He's been on one-year deals since entry level. His patience should have run out long ago.

It did, but he had no options. Next year he is UFA and full of options.

Man Hoffman has to be the most overrated Sen in last 20 years

Ev wrote:Man Hoffman has to be the most overrated Sen in last 20 years

Meh, I think he's slightly overrated, but his release and offensive instincts are needed on this team imo. At least until someone else comes along or is acquired who can tickle 30 goals.

I like bobby still, but I dare him to come close to 30. Stone maybe, Turris maybe, but Hoffman could fairly easily do it.

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:ZBad is indeed staying in Ottawa this summer to work out.

http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/nhl/senatorsextra/zibanejad-changing-up-summer-routine

Yes, we all read that.  Back in April.  Has there been any confirmation since then?

What the hell is wrong with you?  You now want a follow-up story to see if ZBad is sticking to what he said?

What the hell is wrong with me?  He said all the right things -- when have we heard that before.  Guess we'll see in September if he followed through on his promises.

HE was DJing in Ottawa on Canada Day (escapade music fest?). I think he was back in sweden after the season ended but basically back now in Ottawa for the rest of the year.

Ev wrote:Man Hoffman has to be the most overrated Sen in last 20 years

Yes, back to back over 25 goals season. No one is saying give him Bobby rye money but pay the man and have him stick around. You see many 25-30 goal scorers growing on trees? Or ready to play out of our system? I don't!

Plus if he did sign long term and didn't pan out as much then you could still trade him for something in return. Right now with each passing month his value goes down.


Heck I'd almost say sign and trade but I don't want that reputation for the sens (again)

Ev wrote:Man Hoffman has to be the most overrated Sen in last 20 years

Based on what?
Overrated by whom? HFBoards? The fanbase in general? Pretty much every prospect is hyped to the sun and back.

Like it or not he IS one of the most productive forwards we've ever drafted and developed.

Hoags wrote:

Ev wrote:Man Hoffman has to be the most overrated Sen in last 20 years

Based on what?
Overrated by whom? HFBoards? The fanbase in general? Pretty much every prospect is hyped to the sun and back.

Like it or not he IS one of the most productive forwards we've ever drafted and developed.

I don't see how this can be said after he has played two seasons.

I liked Pierre Dorion's response yesterday, questioning why there's a panic about Hoffman. Of course I also heard the same from BMurr about Alfie not being signed. 'I'm sure we'll get it done'. Nope.

But back to Dorion's comments, he made a point about not losing any players to UFA, and he's right. Everyone was losing their Dung 2 years ago about not being able to re-sign Bobby Ryan, Clarke Macarthur, Marc Methot, Craig Anderson since they were all going to be UFAs at the same time. They all got signed, and that's when Dorion was heavily involved in negotiations after Bryan Murray was diagnosed with Cancer. Think they'll come through on this one. Sounds like they're aiming for a long term deal.

Michallica wrote:I liked Pierre Dorion's response yesterday, questioning why there's a panic about Hoffman.  Of course I also heard the same from BMurr about Alfie not being signed. 'I'm sure we'll get it done'.  Nope.

But back to Dorion's comments, he made a point about not losing any players to UFA, and he's right.  Everyone was losing their Dung 2 years ago about not being able to re-sign Bobby Ryan, Clarke Macarthur, Marc Methot, Craig Anderson since they were all going to be UFAs at the same time.  They all got signed, and that's when Dorion was heavily involved in negotiations after Bryan Murray was diagnosed with Cancer.  Think they'll come through on this one.  Sounds like they're aiming for a long term deal.  

I certainly hope so.

Michallica wrote:I liked Pierre Dorion's response yesterday, questioning why there's a panic about Hoffman.  Of course I also heard the same from BMurr about Alfie not being signed. 'I'm sure we'll get it done'.  Nope.

But back to Dorion's comments, he made a point about not losing any players to UFA, and he's right.  Everyone was losing their Dung 2 years ago about not being able to re-sign Bobby Ryan, Clarke Macarthur, Marc Methot, Craig Anderson since they were all going to be UFAs at the same time.  They all got signed, and that's when Dorion was heavily involved in negotiations after Bryan Murray was diagnosed with Cancer.  Think they'll come through on this one.  Sounds like they're aiming for a long term deal.  

That's what a lot of people have been saying from the beginning. The Sens NEVER let guys walk due to not paying them - with the exception of Alfie, which was so dumb. They sign everyone they set out to.

Those deals to McKinnon and Schiefele...wow. So much for the bridge deal.

dennycrane wrote:Those deals to McKinnon and Schiefele...wow. So much for the bridge deal.

McKinnon is an f-ing fantastic deal. Dung...Schiefele is not bad either TBH. Bridge my Donkey.

Michallica wrote:I liked Pierre Dorion's response yesterday, questioning why there's a panic about Hoffman.  Of course I also heard the same from BMurr about Alfie not being signed. 'I'm sure we'll get it done'.  Nope.

But back to Dorion's comments, he made a point about not losing any players to UFA, and he's right.  Everyone was losing their Dung 2 years ago about not being able to re-sign Bobby Ryan, Clarke Macarthur, Marc Methot, Craig Anderson since they were all going to be UFAs at the same time.  They all got signed, and that's when Dorion was heavily involved in negotiations after Bryan Murray was diagnosed with Cancer.  Think they'll come through on this one.  Sounds like they're aiming for a long term deal.  

Amazing to me that people still put any weight in what is said by GMs regarding negotiations.

tim1_2 wrote:

Michallica wrote:I liked Pierre Dorion's response yesterday, questioning why there's a panic about Hoffman.  Of course I also heard the same from BMurr about Alfie not being signed. 'I'm sure we'll get it done'.  Nope.

But back to Dorion's comments, he made a point about not losing any players to UFA, and he's right.  Everyone was losing their Dung 2 years ago about not being able to re-sign Bobby Ryan, Clarke Macarthur, Marc Methot, Craig Anderson since they were all going to be UFAs at the same time.  They all got signed, and that's when Dorion was heavily involved in negotiations after Bryan Murray was diagnosed with Cancer.  Think they'll come through on this one.  Sounds like they're aiming for a long term deal.  

Amazing to me that people still put any weight in what is said by GMs regarding negotiations.

I might have agreed if it was Bryan Murray. With Dorion, I'm willing to give him the benefit of doubt.

Any trades?

My lawn is trading its yellow colour for a faint shade of green.