Game Day - Senators @ Sabres , 7:30PM, Friday, Movember 11, 2011

SpezDispenser wrote:

Peggy wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Peggy wrote:

NEELY wrote:Losers will be losers. 0 respect for that kind of attitude. It's really doing NYI well eh? Columbus, LOOK OUT! Florida, oh me oh my, 1o years without a playoff birth.

Yup, drafting the "best player possible" always works, haha. What a joke.

Yeah but if Ottawa actually tanked to draft 1st you would be saying that's "100% the right move by Murray".

See the nice thing about this comment is Murray would never do that nor would the better GM's in the league. So what's your point here? Don't think you actually had one.

It's funny because Murray kind of did that last year but we kept winning instead.

Kind of...but not exactly. He challenged Greening, Condra and Butler to come up and make and fight for their NHL lives + he also acquired a high level goalie - which went against the tank.

Peggy wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Peggy wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Peggy wrote:

NEELY wrote:Losers will be losers. 0 respect for that kind of attitude. It's really doing NYI well eh? Columbus, LOOK OUT! Florida, oh me oh my, 1o years without a playoff birth.

Yup, drafting the "best player possible" always works, haha. What a joke.

Yeah but if Ottawa actually tanked to draft 1st you would be saying that's "100% the right move by Murray".

See the nice thing about this comment is Murray would never do that nor would the better GM's in the league. So what's your point here? Don't think you actually had one.

It's funny because Murray kind of did that last year but we kept winning instead.

Kind of...but not exactly. He challenged Greening, Condra and Butler to come up and make and fight for their NHL lives + he also acquired a high level goalie - which went against the tank.

Did he?

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

Peggy wrote:

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

how could we though? we were too busy winning

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

Karlsson?

The problem is we have no 1st line Fs in the system, we have some nice 2nd liners and as many 3rd/4th liners as you could possibly ever need, but now the focus is on whether we have enough top line talent up front or not IMO.

Dash wrote:And all that winning got us what? SCF? That was great and all... but then nothing after that but early exits. While Ottawa stayed the same other teams got better.

The teams that keep winning can attract players to sign there (Detroit) and the ones that couldn't attract players drafted their own stars.

Islanders, Blue Jackets have off-ice issues, let alone on ice. How can you attract players to sign with you when you don't sell tickets, have an owner, or your owner wants to sell and relocate team?

NEELY wrote:

Peggy wrote:

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

how could we though? we were too busy winning

How about Stefan, Fluery, Johnson, Phillips, Berard, Daigle...

As for the Hall or Tavares, both nice players, haven't really done Richard all to this point. Karlsson is on the same level as Kane for sure.

Either way, keep thinking they way you are, i'll just keep calling you a loser. That's what you want to promote.

Peggy wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Peggy wrote:

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

how could we though? we were too busy winning

How about Stefan, Fluery, Johnson, Phillips, Berard, Daigle...

As for the Hall or Tavares, both nice players, haven't really done Richard all to this point. Karlsson is on the same level as Kane for sure.

Either way, keep thinking they way you are, i'll just keep calling you a loser. That's what you want to promote.

Dash. My bad there. Sorry

What? I'm not on the losing bandwagon. Diddle that Dung. Or are you talking to Dash?

Peggy wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Peggy wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Peggy wrote:

NEELY wrote:Losers will be losers. 0 respect for that kind of attitude. It's really doing NYI well eh? Columbus, LOOK OUT! Florida, oh me oh my, 1o years without a playoff birth.

Yup, drafting the "best player possible" always works, haha. What a joke.

Yeah but if Ottawa actually tanked to draft 1st you would be saying that's "100% the right move by Murray".

See the nice thing about this comment is Murray would never do that nor would the better GM's in the league. So what's your point here? Don't think you actually had one.

It's funny because Murray kind of did that last year but we kept winning instead.

Kind of...but not exactly. He challenged Greening, Condra and Butler to come up and make and fight for their NHL lives + he also acquired a high level goalie - which went against the tank.

Did he?

Dash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:Those guys are good and all - but they aren't elite. How do you get elite players? Well you either draft them (which means winning the lottery) or in the rare occasion, sign one. But teams rarely let their stars go to free agency.

I challenge anyone to name someone on the Sens drafted in the last 10 years that compares to RNH, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane...

Karlsson?

The problem is we have no 1st line Fs in the system, we have some nice 2nd liners and as many 3rd/4th liners as you could possibly ever need, but now the focus is on whether we have enough top line talent up front or not IMO.

Lots of guys like Karlsson that were drafted in the later picks. But you're right we need a forward. Apparently Spezza can't cut it, Alfie will be gone sooner than later, Michalek is/has been inconsistent and unhealthy, and if he plays like he is now, he is a decent top line guy, but he's not that young. Zibanejad is an unproven prospect, same with Puempel, Silfverberg, Prince, Stone, Noesen.

Lots of similar guys on other teams that have done nothing (Nemisz, Tangradi, etc).

Edmonton has had two guys in 2 years that have made a huge impact.