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How will they (San Jose) do it?

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1How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:51 am

SeawaySensFan

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Are we pretty much in agreement the Jaws are the only hope for the Senators to move Heatley?

If so, how will they pull it off?

While Montreal is rumoured to be the partner in the cap relief component of the deal, I have found it difficult to see how it can be done.

My best estimation would be that Montreal would ship Hamrlik and possibly a pick in one of the first two rounds (don't forget, San Jose would be stuck for two years with Hamrlik) for Choochoo and one of Ehrhoff or Vlasic. A tough pill to swallow for San Jose.

The only possibility I can see for Nabokov would be Washington, probably straight-up for Theodore.

What say you?

2How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:03 am

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I can't see how this deal works either, unless one of Marleau and Thornton or even Boyle are moved! To take on another contract like Heatley's with more guys needing to be signed, it's sure going to be interesting.

If we could move Heatley, buyout or have Smith retire and get Boyle and Michalek in this deal!!!

To Ottawa: Boyle, Michalek and ?
To San Jose: Heatley, Lee and Halak
To Montreal: Cheechoo, Erhoff, Schubert and Couture

I still have a hard time seeing how it can go down, but it is sounding more and more like it may happen, it's just how????

3How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:12 am

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jamvan wrote:I can't see how this deal works either, unless one of Marleau and Thornton or even Boyle are moved! To take on another contract like Heatley's with more guys needing to be signed, it's sure going to be interesting.

If we could move Heatley, buyout or have Smith retire and get Boyle and Michalek in this deal!!!

To Ottawa: Boyle, Michalek and ?
To San Jose: Heatley, Lee and Halak
To Montreal: Cheechoo, Erhoff, Schubert and Couture

I still have a hard time seeing how it can go down, but it is sounding more and more like it may happen, it's just how????

I don't get it, so MTL gives up Halak and gets Cheechoo, Ehrhoff, Schubert and Couture????

Wow. That Halak has some BIGTIME value.

AND
San Jose gives up Boyle, Michalek, Cheechoo, Ehrhoff, and a top notch prospect for Heatley, Lee and Halak?

Seems a little unreasonable jam.

4How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:18 am

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Yeah... that one seems a little lopsided... and the Sharks get stiffed for sure.

5How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:22 am

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Jordo wrote:
jamvan wrote:I can't see how this deal works either, unless one of Marleau and Thornton or even Boyle are moved! To take on another contract like Heatley's with more guys needing to be signed, it's sure going to be interesting.

If we could move Heatley, buyout or have Smith retire and get Boyle and Michalek in this deal!!!

To Ottawa: Boyle, Michalek and ?
To San Jose: Heatley, Lee and Halak
To Montreal: Cheechoo, Erhoff, Schubert and Couture

I still have a hard time seeing how it can go down, but it is sounding more and more like it may happen, it's just how????

I don't get it, so MTL gives up Halak and gets Cheechoo, Ehrhoff, Schubert and Couture????

Wow. That Halak has some BIGTIME value.

AND
San Jose gives up Boyle, Michalek, Cheechoo, Ehrhoff, and a top notch prospect for Heatley, Lee and Halak?

Seems a little unreasonable jam.

I was just throwing crap out there, it's nothing. Notice the question marks everywhere. LOL! I sort of gave up trying to figure it out.

Hamrlik and pukanec are part of this for sure.

6How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:23 am

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As I said last week.

To SJ - Heatley

To Edm - Marleau, Cheechoo/Erhoff

To Ott - Penner, Cogliano, Smid

Picks/Prospects could be added to make everyone happy, but as far as 1 way contracts and roster players goes, this is it.

7How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:28 am

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RobbyJ wrote:As I said last week.

To SJ - Heatley

To Edm - Marleau, Cheechoo/Erhoff

To Ott - Penner, Cogliano, Smid

Picks/Prospects could be added to make everyone happy, but as far as 1 way contracts and roster players goes, this is it.

It puts EDM way over the cap, unfortunately.

8How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:39 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
RobbyJ wrote:As I said last week.

To SJ - Heatley

To Edm - Marleau, Cheechoo/Erhoff

To Ott - Penner, Cogliano, Smid

Picks/Prospects could be added to make everyone happy, but as far as 1 way contracts and roster players goes, this is it.

It puts EDM way over the cap, unfortunately.

That puts Edmonton over the cap? I can't believe they're that close. Who the heck do they have? :^^^^:

9How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:43 am

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RobbyJ wrote:As I said last week.

To SJ - Heatley

To Edm - Marleau, Cheechoo/Erhoff

To Ott - Penner, Cogliano, Smid

Picks/Prospects could be added to make everyone happy, but as far as 1 way contracts and roster players goes, this is it.
I think we can take Marleau off any trade talk if he won't waive his NTC...

10How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:47 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
RobbyJ wrote:As I said last week.

To SJ - Heatley

To Edm - Marleau, Cheechoo/Erhoff

To Ott - Penner, Cogliano, Smid

Picks/Prospects could be added to make everyone happy, but as far as 1 way contracts and roster players goes, this is it.

It puts EDM way over the cap, unfortunately.

That puts Edmonton over the cap? I can't believe they're that close. Who the heck do they have? :^^^^:

A bunch of players they have to overpay to play there.

11How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:54 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
RobbyJ wrote:As I said last week.

To SJ - Heatley

To Edm - Marleau, Cheechoo/Erhoff

To Ott - Penner, Cogliano, Smid

Picks/Prospects could be added to make everyone happy, but as far as 1 way contracts and roster players goes, this is it.

It puts EDM way over the cap, unfortunately.

That puts Edmonton over the cap? I can't believe they're that close. Who the heck do they have? :^^^^:

I was a little shocked as well. Their D, in particular, is pretty pricy.

12How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:58 am

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How will San Jose do it?

They won't.

13How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:00 am

Jordo

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RobbyJ wrote:As I said last week.

To SJ - Heatley

To Edm - Marleau, Cheechoo/Erhoff

To Ott - Penner, Cogliano, Smid

Picks/Prospects could be added to make everyone happy, but as far as 1 way contracts and roster players goes, this is it.

Do we really want this though? I was disgusted with this trade when it was first released. Penner is a lump of coal man. I would definitely take Cheechoo over Penner- they're both dice rolls, but at least Cheechoo scored almost 60 once.. Theyve both deteriorated, but Cheechoo can (or could) score goals- which is something Ottawa needs to address. In addition, I'd much rather have Ehrhoff or Vlasic instead of Smid. Cogliano would be a great addition, but I also don't really see where he fits in here. He's not quite a top 6, but he plays an excellent third line role. Perhaps (and it kills me to say this, but) Kelly could become expendable if we were to pick up a guy like Cogs.

How about this:

to SJ: Heatley, Kelly, Edm's 1st
to EDM: Marleau
to OTT: Cheechoo, Ehrhoff, Cogliano



Last edited by Jordo on Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:03 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : changed trade!)

14How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:04 am

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Nevermind, EDM needs to free up more cap space to fit Marleau...

15How will they (San Jose) do it? Empty Re: How will they (San Jose) do it? Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:19 am

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Edmonton was going over the cap with their original Heatley deal, so I assume they had a plan in place to reduce their cap.

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