Don Waddell talks about Trade Deadline (Hossa) last year - GREAT READ

Cronie wrote:Does anyone know what Gainey was offering to Shero?

davetherave wrote:

Cronie wrote:Does anyone know what Gainey was offering to Shero?

Cronie, the discussion about Hossa was Waddell-Gainey...Shero beat Bob to the punch.

Nasty Nas wrote:For sure the OTT/CAR trade was fine. I was just using it as an
example of a trade that did nothing whereas the trade for Hossa was
100% the reason Pitts made it to the finals. Without Hossa there
last year they don't come close. Pitts was just unfortunate Hossa
decided to jump ship for a worse contract. If he stayed this year
Pitts would likely be making another good run.

Ruutu sucks to lose but Pitts has Talbot and Cooke who can fill the
void. Roberts is useless to have. Malone is a third line
type player like Fisher who is getting paid far more than
deserved. At 2-2.5 he would be worth keeping. Shere made
the right move not making any serious offer for him.



.....but definately a good article and fun read. thanks for posting Heater.

Nasty Nas wrote:For sure the OTT/CAR trade was fine. I was just using it as an
example of a trade that did nothing whereas the trade for Hossa was
100% the reason Pitts made it to the finals. Without Hossa there
last year they don't come close. Pitts was just unfortunate Hossa
decided to jump ship for a worse contract. If he stayed this year
Pitts would likely be making another good run.

Ruutu sucks to lose but Pitts has Talbot and Cooke who can fill the
void. Roberts is useless to have. Malone is a third line
type player like Fisher who is getting paid far more than
deserved. At 2-2.5 he would be worth keeping. Shere made
the right move not making any serious offer for him.



.....but definately a good article and fun read. thanks for posting Heater.

Nasty Nas wrote:yeah, they got hosed. Hossa was only a huge reason they made it
to the finals and had a chance at the cup. Thats certainly not
what a deadline player is all about. Maybe Shero should have
called Carolina to try and land Stillman and Commodore. How dare
Hossa have such a huge impact for Pittsburgh. I'm sorry but
Christiansen and Armstrong would not help this team one bit this
year. The first is not all that important since they wont be able
to afford all the young talent in 3-4 years anyways and Esposito i
still believe is going to be an average NHLer.

Shero gave the team a shot in the arm and they had a great run. Tough to ask for more than that.

Cronie wrote:

davetherave wrote:

Cronie wrote:Does anyone know what Gainey was offering to Shero?

Cronie, the discussion about Hossa was Waddell-Gainey...Shero beat Bob to the punch.

OOPS! That was a typo on my part. Too many windows open at once.

I meant does anyone know what Gainey was offering to Waddell for Hossa?

davetherave wrote:

Nasty Nas wrote:For sure the OTT/CAR trade was fine. I was just using it as an
example of a trade that did nothing whereas the trade for Hossa was
100% the reason Pitts made it to the finals. Without Hossa there
last year they don't come close. Pitts was just unfortunate Hossa
decided to jump ship for a worse contract. If he stayed this year
Pitts would likely be making another good run.

Ruutu sucks to lose but Pitts has Talbot and Cooke who can fill the
void. Roberts is useless to have. Malone is a third line
type player like Fisher who is getting paid far more than
deserved. At 2-2.5 he would be worth keeping. Shere made
the right move not making any serious offer for him.



.....but definately a good article and fun read. thanks for posting Heater.

Nas, you are 100% right about Hossa being the player who put the Pens over the top.

From a revenue perspective, Shero made an outstanding decision. The Penguins made it to within one win of the Cup. Think of the money that generated for Pittsburgh.

GMs have to balance business decisions with hockey decisions, and vice versa.

As for Hossa, he kept Shero dangling until the last minute and then turned around and signed with the Wings. That messed up Shero's planning big time...no way he could have anticipated that.

Cronie wrote:[I was going to mention that part about Hossa; because that's quintessentially where Hossa screwed Shero and the Pens. Not sure of what the details were or why (besides perhaps the obvious) but you make a great point DTR, I don't think ANYONE could have nor SHOULD they be faulted for losing Hossa in the off-season.

I do tend to wonder what would have happened if Hossa had re-signed with the Pens though.

Neely4Life wrote:Why the hell do you bring me up? There are 3 different boards about Spezza, I didnt create one... Jesus.

Nasty Nas wrote:For sure the OTT/CAR trade was fine. I was just using it as an
example of a trade that did nothing whereas the trade for Hossa was
100% the reason Pitts made it to the finals. Without Hossa there
last year they don't come close. Pitts was just unfortunate Hossa
decided to jump ship for a worse contract. If he stayed this year
Pitts would likely be making another good run.

Ruutu sucks to lose but Pitts has Talbot and Cooke who can fill the
void. Roberts is useless to have. Malone is a third line
type player like Fisher who is getting paid far more than
deserved. At 2-2.5 he would be worth keeping. Shere made
the right move not making any serious offer for him.



.....but definately a good article and fun read. thanks for posting Heater.

504Heater wrote:

Nasty Nas wrote:For sure the OTT/CAR trade was fine. I was just using it as an
example of a trade that did nothing whereas the trade for Hossa was
100% the reason Pitts made it to the finals. Without Hossa there
last year they don't come close. Pitts was just unfortunate Hossa
decided to jump ship for a worse contract. If he stayed this year
Pitts would likely be making another good run.

Ruutu sucks to lose but Pitts has Talbot and Cooke who can fill the
void. Roberts is useless to have. Malone is a third line
type player like Fisher who is getting paid far more than
deserved. At 2-2.5 he would be worth keeping. Shere made
the right move not making any serious offer for him.



.....but definately a good article and fun read. thanks for posting Heater.

The importance of going to the Cup Finals supersedes anything. Plus, as you said, Armstrong wasn't a difference maker, nor was Christenson.

I think the only thing Shero did wrong was not sign Malone to the same package as TB was offering. He's shown on a horrid TB team that he can put the puck in the net. I think of all people, he was the one that the Pens miss the most.

It'll all work out though, you have a pretty awesome team that needs a little re-tooling.