What the hell is wrong in Ottawa?

Maybe the Sens need to regrow their porn staches? Maybe they should try soul patches LOL.

Aetherial wrote:

shabbs wrote:I still hear rumblings about Spezza and Neil having issues and causing the room to split due to Spezza sleeping with Neil's wife. Was there ever any truth to that? Anyone else heard that on their radar?

There has been one of those rumors about every team in the league.

In Toronto a number of years ago, it was Corson who slept with Mogilny's wife.

urban lore, purely fabricated BS.

Every time Patrick Roy closes his eyes he sees his wife hittin' it with different past teammates, and he's hears the horrible, taunting laughter. No wonder he's the way he is.

Aetherial wrote:

shabbs wrote:I still hear rumblings about Spezza and Neil having issues and causing the room to split due to Spezza sleeping with Neil's wife. Was there ever any truth to that? Anyone else heard that on their radar?

There has been one of those rumors about every team in the league.

In Toronto a number of years ago, it was Corson who slept with Mogilny's wife.

urban lore, purely fabricated BS.

The Corson one is true, I garentee you, 100%, that one is true. Thats exactly why Corson was shipped out to Dallas.

shabbs wrote:I still hear rumblings about Spezza and Neil having issues and causing the room to split due to Spezza sleeping with Neil's wife. Was there ever any truth to that? Anyone else heard that on their radar?

No offense to Chris Neil, but have you see his wife? Spezza could throw a quarter and hit 20 different puck bunnies who are a hundred times hotter. If he wanted to go to Chris Neil's wife, he's mentally retarded. Neil would kill him.

This one just won't go away will it? I don't care what the issues are just fix them.

i think the problem is that management seems to have no particular aim or goal or direction.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Dawg's Wife wrote:Why are they so frustrated?

Because they have to work for wins. Simple.

I don't think the losing has to do with a lack of effort, although considering where they are it's somewhat understandable why they'd not try as hard.

The simple fact of the matter is that they aren't as fast, aren't as skilled, and aren't as good at passing as other teams. The only player on our team beyond the top-line with a modicum of play-making ability is Winchester.

They're fighting in the corners and dumping and chasing, but when you have to do that every shift and never get an odd-man rush from an astute pass from a defenceman, it's exhausting.

For that reason, I think that if you added Karlsson to this team, I'd bet he'd add about 15-20 goals to our current total.

Although defensively/physically he isn't ready.

Tortorella had an interesting point of view on the Sens in the Citizen today.

They've lost their swagger. Torts said that when they came to Tampa, they knew they were going to win and they had it on their faces. They don't anymore.

asq2 wrote:Tortorella had an interesting point of view on the Sens in the Citizen today.

They've lost their swagger. Torts said that when they came to Tampa, they knew they were going to win and they had it on their faces. They don't anymore.

We lost that a long time ago... no one's afraid of the Sens anymore. We don't intimidate anyone like we used to. We lack confidence and as Alfie said... the team is very fragile now.

It reminds me of the days when it was a guaranteed loss if we got scored on first.

shabbs wrote:

asq2 wrote:Tortorella had an interesting point of view on the Sens in the Citizen today.

They've lost their swagger. Torts said that when they came to Tampa, they knew they were going to win and they had it on their faces. They don't anymore.

We lost that a long time ago... no one's afraid of the Sens anymore. We don't intimidate anyone like we used to. We lack confidence and as Alfie said... the team is very fragile now.

It reminds me of the days when it was a guaranteed loss if we got scored on first.

Or when we could never win a game when down a goal or more going into the third period.

asq2 wrote:

shabbs wrote:

asq2 wrote:Tortorella had an interesting point of view on the Sens in the Citizen today.

They've lost their swagger. Torts said that when they came to Tampa, they knew they were going to win and they had it on their faces. They don't anymore.

We lost that a long time ago... no one's afraid of the Sens anymore. We don't intimidate anyone like we used to. We lack confidence and as Alfie said... the team is very fragile now.

It reminds me of the days when it was a guaranteed loss if we got scored on first.

Or when we could never win a game when down a goal or more going into the third period.

I was thinking the other day that this is all Paddock's fault. He had no system, no discipline, no accountability and let the players pretty much run themselves... they free wheeled it for so long they picked up all these bad habits and are a fractured team.

If a dismantling is not going to happen, we need someone to come in here and break everyone down and rebuild them. Wilson has done this with the Leafs somewhat. I wonder if Quinn would be able to do that here?

Quinn or Torts.

I think that we tend to look at the coach as the scape-goat, though. Hartsburg is not, IMO, a great NHL coach but that'd be three consecutive coaches that couldn't get it out of Ottawa. Something is wrong with the players.

There's just too many struggling vets (Fisher, Phillips, Smith, Vermette etc), young kids (Foligno, Winchester, Lee, Picard) and fringe NHLers (Bell, Donovan, Ruutu, Neil) for us to compete.

The core is fine, but after that it's an absolute nightmare.

I think seeing Bell out on the ice when we had pulled the goalie really made that sink in for me. I mean Brendan ****ing Bell is your go-to defenceman?

asq2 wrote:Quinn or Torts.

I think that we tend to look at the coach as the scape-goat, though. Hartsburg is not, IMO, a great NHL coach but that'd be three consecutive coaches that couldn't get it out of Ottawa. Something is wrong with the players.

There's just too many struggling vets (Fisher, Phillips, Smith, Vermette etc), young kids (Foligno, Winchester, Lee, Picard) and fringe NHLers (Bell, Donovan, Ruutu, Neil) for us to compete.

The core is fine, but after that it's an absolute nightmare.

I think seeing Bell out on the ice when we had pulled the goalie really made that sink in for me. I mean Brendan ****ing Bell is your go-to defenceman?

Good option as a 5, 6 D man, 2nd PP unit kinda guy. Thats as far as it goes though.

Honestly? On a competitive team, Bell is a 7th defenceman.

On our team, he's out there with the goalie pulled.

That speaks volumes IMO.

asq2 wrote:Honestly? On a competitive team, Bell is a 7th defenceman.

On our team, he's out there with the goalie pulled.

That speaks volumes IMO.

We got to the finals with Priesing as our 6th D man, no reason Bell couldnt play that exact same role on a competitive team. I like what Bell brings as a depth D man, even as a 7th guy its not a bad guy to have.

But yes, I agree, Bell as the go to guy back there is upsetting.

I'm ready to go into hibernation until draft day.

hemlock wrote:I'm ready to go into hibernation until draft day.

My reasons for watching this team:

1. Spezza
2. Elliott
3. Winchester and Foligno

That's pretty much the extent of it. Maybe Volchenkov, too.

It's not that they're losing, it's that they're losing and boring.

Neely4Life wrote:

asq2 wrote:Honestly? On a competitive team, Bell is a 7th defenceman.

On our team, he's out there with the goalie pulled.

That speaks volumes IMO.

We got to the finals with Priesing as our 6th D man, no reason Bell couldnt play that exact same role on a competitive team. I like what Bell brings as a depth D man, even as a 7th guy its not a bad guy to have.

But yes, I agree, Bell as the go to guy back there is upsetting.

I think Preissing is much more stable defensively than Bell is.