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Flo The Action


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Am i the only person excited about Egor Sokolov?
Great pick. Swing for the fences , boom or bust type move.
He could be excellent for us.

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Flo The Action wrote:Am i the only person excited about Egor Sokolov?
Great pick. Swing for the fences , boom or bust type move.
He could be excellent for us.  


No way you're the only one excited. Huge pick!

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Lead the Q in goals and 3rd in points. Buckle up! Ahhhhh!

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Can play either wing.


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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'd have taking either Peterka or Grans and addressed areas of need RW and RD. Why add another LW ranked 67th by a lot of scouts. We have Tkachuk, Stutzle, Formenton, Brown, Norris can play LW, etc. Very reminiscent of the Sens in years past. Leave talent on the board for players they could get later on in the draft with huge question marks.

Why not add Peterka who plays with Stutzle and can slot into RW which is Ottawa's largest area of weakness? WHERE IS THE PLAN???

Wonder if they got any intel on Peterka from Stutzle.


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Flo The Action

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PTFlea wrote:Lead the Q in goals and 3rd in points.  Buckle up! Ahhhhh!

some will say he's 20 but the reason i heard he hadn't been picked was his skating. since then, he's actually improved it apparently.


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https://puckprose.com/2020/10/08/2020-nhl-draft-grading-every-teams-draft-class/

C- for Ottawa

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You realize how hard it is to get a C- in a draft when you have 7 picks in the first 2 rounds? Ottawa did a masterful job of Cussing this draft up.

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https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2912481-2020-nhl-draft-results-team-by-team-grades-and-notable-picks.amp.html

B- for Ottawa

Less solid was Ottawa. The Senators had three first-round picks, and while Tim Stuetzle was the no-brainer pick, Jake Sanderson at No. 5 felt like a reach. Yes, Ottawa wanted to address the defense, but there were better overall players available like Rossi or Cole Perfetti.

Again, Sanderson wasn't a bad pick. There's an argument to be made that either he or Jamie Drysdale is the top blueliner in this draft. But the Senators had the chance to add two dynamic forwards and passed it up. It will be a pick scrutinized in the coming years.

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check out Mark Edwards/Hockey Prospect, Grant McCagg, and Steve Kourianos for very solid analysis of the sens’ draft and other teams draft picks. At the end of the day, draft grades are always meaningless and irrelevant even if you get As.  But it’s clear the nhl scouting community has a completely different opinion of the sens first round then some of the highly questionable blog sources being presented here

Sens had an A+ first round in 2011 and then two of their first rounders busted. If Sanderson and Greig don’t work out then it will be a bad draft. If stutzle and Sanderson become stars, it’s a fantastic draft

The draft is done with now. Time to move on.

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It's adorable people would defer to something called puckpro to illuatrate a good or bad draft. I wanted Rossi or Raymond, but I'm not blind to getting a guy who could be a horse with Chabot and be an a1 defender. It's how teams win, it's really not hard to see why they did it after reading his scouting reports.

They swung for the fences a couple of times too, i have no problem with that.

Dont worry so much about it, let's see how it shakes out now.

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Can you imagine getting Paul Statsny for the price of Josh Brown?

PTFlea

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Statsny had a NTC and waived it for Winnipeg. He had Vegas by the balls.

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Ottawa's draft was totally fine. It'll take years to figure out if they could've done much better. Again, recent scouting and drafting has earned the benefit of the doubt. People shat all over Karlsson and the Sens when he was drafted, people shat all over Tkachuk and the Sens when he was drafted, etc.

It's unfortunate to have to keep trading mid round picks for filler players though. You'd think all we'd have to do is overpay some decent free agents to fill those spots, but maybe it speaks to how much FAs are avoiding the Sens (as they should be).

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tim1_2 wrote:Ottawa's draft was totally fine.  It'll take years to figure out if they could've done much better.  Again, recent scouting and drafting has earned the benefit of the doubt.  People shat all over Karlsson and the Sens when he was drafted, people shat all over Tkachuk and the Sens when he was drafted, etc.  

It's unfortunate to have to keep trading mid round picks for filler players though.  You'd think all we'd have to do is overpay some decent free agents to fill those spots, but maybe it speaks to how much FAs are avoiding the Sens (as they should be).  

That is my beef. Stop trading picks for fodder. Or...acquire Gud and call it a day, but those picks are...picks too.

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tim1_2 wrote:Ottawa's draft was totally fine.  It'll take years to figure out if they could've done much better.  Again, recent scouting and drafting has earned the benefit of the doubt.  People shat all over Karlsson and the Sens when he was drafted, people shat all over Tkachuk and the Sens when he was drafted, etc.  

It's unfortunate to have to keep trading mid round picks for filler players though.  You'd think all we'd have to do is overpay some decent free agents to fill those spots, but maybe it speaks to how much FAs are avoiding the Sens (as they should be).  

And let's not forget that it also goes the other way. Remember how stoked everyone was with Zibanejad, Noeson, Puempel, Prince. Zibanejad didn't really pan out until he was traded (and I still maintain that "kick in the pants" was needed, and he would have continued to underperform in Ottawa).  Bottom line is that you simply cannot grade a draft until 2 years -- at a minimum -- down the road.



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I was actually pretty upset they didn't take couturier

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Not sure if I’m late on this thread, but I think with all the quality players that are FA of some sort and the teams that will want cap help, I think we will target Josh Brown, Gudbranson and the wife-beater Watson via trade. We will want to acquire these players quickly and offer picks for them before other teams come calling for their services. We will deal with adding UFA talent later with our abundance of cap space and our ability to sell them on the plan moving forward.

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