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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:This was just about worst case scenario for me tbh. Not thrilled with the Sanderson pick but was hoping the 28th would be moved for a top six forward . But what do I know

We all know very little which is why all these picks shouldn’t be judged at the time of the draft. I love the first two picks a lot though

Im surprised they didn't go peterka. Would be good for Stutzle to go with his linemate

Flo The Action wrote:Brisson was the obvious choice.
I’m starting to hate Dorion. He’s proven me wrong quite a few times so I can’t discount him but this just feels like a waste when there is so much more talent out there.

How was he the obvious choice, at all?

What do you know about any of these guys?

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Im surprised they didn't go peterka. Would be good for Stutzle to go with his linemate

They very well could if he last until 33.

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:This was just about worst case scenario for me tbh. Not thrilled with the Sanderson pick but was hoping the 28th would be moved for a top six forward . But what do I know

We all know very little which is why all these picks shouldn’t be judged at the time of the draft. I love the first two picks a lot though

I don't get drafting someone to play behind the best player on your team. He's second pairing dman so long as Chabot is there.

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Im surprised they didn't go peterka. Would be good for Stutzle to go with his linemate

They very well could if he last until 33.

This is around the time where Ottawa drafts safe picks vs guys with high ceilings.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:This was just about worst case scenario for me tbh. Not thrilled with the Sanderson pick but was hoping the 28th would be moved for a top six forward . But what do I know

We all know very little which is why all these picks shouldn’t be judged at the time of the draft. I love the first two picks a lot though

I don't get drafting someone to play behind the best player on your team. He's second pairing dman so long as Chabot is there.

Because you don’t draft based on need. Who cares if he’s on the second pairing, he’ll be playing a Dung ton of minutes and #1 PK. He and chabot will have similar ice time in their prime. Sens are on track to have one of the best d in the league if they reach their potential

Who knows he could play RD as well

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Im surprised they didn't go peterka. Would be good for Stutzle to go with his linemate

They very well could if he last until 33.

This is around the time where Ottawa drafts safe picks vs guys with high ceilings.

Not every year. We’ll see what happens tomorrow. Going off bobs rankings we pretty much drafted on board so far

The hockey prospect black book, which is the best scouting service out there on the web in my opinion, had the following rankings. Looks like Ottawa hit it out of the park according to them at least

https://i.servimg.com/u/f27/20/26/75/42/cb1a5f10.jpg

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Flo The Action wrote:Brisson was the obvious choice.
I’m starting to hate Dorion. He’s proven me wrong quite a few times so I can’t discount him but this just feels like a waste when there is so much more talent out there.

How was he the obvious choice, at all?

What do you know about any of these guys?

it's terrible because we pass on guys with much higher ceilings for more of these character guys.
I have no problem with the guy himself but that type of player is available much lower and is at best a third-line forward.

it's discouraging because this is unlikely to be a defining draft if we don't rake in guys withwith high offensive ceilings.

there's still another round to make up for this but I am disappointed.

I'm ok with Stutzle as i think he will be effective and Sanderson will be ok but i think we look back and redraft in a few years and will be pissed at what we passed on while some of us were screaming for these players.

Ev wrote:The hockey prospect black book, which is the best scouting service out there on the web in my opinion, had the following rankings. Looks like Ottawa hit it out of the park according to them at least

https://i.servimg.com/u/f27/20/26/75/42/cb1a5f10.jpg

I really don't know about this ranking. it looks off on many picks.

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:Brisson was the obvious choice.
I’m starting to hate Dorion. He’s proven me wrong quite a few times so I can’t discount him but this just feels like a waste when there is so much more talent out there.

How was he the obvious choice, at all?

What do you know about any of these guys?

it's terrible because we pass on guys with much higher ceilings for more of these character guys.
I have no problem with the guy himself but that type of player is available much lower and is at best a third-line forward.

it's discouraging because this is unlikely to be a defining draft if we don't rake in guys withwith high offensive ceilings.

there's still another round to make up for this but I am disappointed.

I'm ok with Stutzle as i think he will be effective and Sanderson will be ok but i think we look back and redraft in a few years and will be pissed at what we passed on while some of us were screaming for these players.

He would not have been available much lower at all. Was definitely going to go in the first round or very early second.

I disagree about character, don’t think that was a big factor in any pick made tonight

The legitimate scouts I follow are all saying Ottawa had an A+ first round. I can send you the hockey prospect black book in an email if you want. It’s the best draft guide every season with in depth scouting reports and quotes. They love greig and feel he can be a top six tkachuk like forward. Mckenzies rankings had him 24th too. I’m very satisfied with this draft seeing what is being said about these guys. Ottawa’s going to be a playoff warrior team once we get there.

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:The hockey prospect black book, which is the best scouting service out there on the web in my opinion, had the following rankings. Looks like Ottawa hit it out of the park according to them at least

https://i.servimg.com/u/f27/20/26/75/42/cb1a5f10.jpg

I really don't know about this ranking. it looks off on many picks.

They and grant McCagg are two of the best and their rankings often follow nhl scouts thinking very closely. They were absolutely bang on about the top 3, Quinn and Sanderson for example

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:Brisson was the obvious choice.
I’m starting to hate Dorion. He’s proven me wrong quite a few times so I can’t discount him but this just feels like a waste when there is so much more talent out there.

How was he the obvious choice, at all?

What do you know about any of these guys?

it's terrible because we pass on guys with much higher ceilings for more of these character guys.
I have no problem with the guy himself but that type of player is available much lower and is at best a third-line forward.

it's discouraging because this is unlikely to be a defining draft if we don't rake in guys withwith high offensive ceilings.

there's still another round to make up for this but I am disappointed.  

I'm ok with Stutzle as i think he will be effective and Sanderson will be ok but i think we look back and redraft in a few years and will be pissed at what we passed on while some of us were screaming for these players.

He would not have been available much lower at all. Was definitely going to go in the first round or very early second.

I disagree about character, don’t think that was a big factor in any pick made tonight

The legitimate scouts I follow are all saying Ottawa had an A+ first round. I can send you the hockey prospect black book in an email if you want. It’s the best draft guide every season with in depth scouting reports and quotes. They love greig and feel he can be a top six tkachuk like forward. Mckenzies rankings had him 24th too. I’m very satisfied with this draft seeing what is being said about these guys. Ottawa’s going to be a playoff warrior team once we get there.

Sure. You can send it to me.
And I’m familiar with what’s been said about the player. The draft analyst podcast also had a lot of good thing to say and described him as the super pest of the draft.

I just think in this draft especially with the players remaining it’s a bit high to draft A Mirko Ruutu.
I’m sure I’ll love the guy when he makes it but it’s the players we’ll have passed on that bother me.

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:Brisson was the obvious choice.
I’m starting to hate Dorion. He’s proven me wrong quite a few times so I can’t discount him but this just feels like a waste when there is so much more talent out there.

How was he the obvious choice, at all?

What do you know about any of these guys?

it's terrible because we pass on guys with much higher ceilings for more of these character guys.
I have no problem with the guy himself but that type of player is available much lower and is at best a third-line forward.

it's discouraging because this is unlikely to be a defining draft if we don't rake in guys withwith high offensive ceilings.

there's still another round to make up for this but I am disappointed.  

I'm ok with Stutzle as i think he will be effective and Sanderson will be ok but i think we look back and redraft in a few years and will be pissed at what we passed on while some of us were screaming for these players.

He would not have been available much lower at all. Was definitely going to go in the first round or very early second.

I disagree about character, don’t think that was a big factor in any pick made tonight

The legitimate scouts I follow are all saying Ottawa had an A+ first round. I can send you the hockey prospect black book in an email if you want. It’s the best draft guide every season with in depth scouting reports and quotes. They love greig and feel he can be a top six tkachuk like forward. Mckenzies rankings had him 24th too. I’m very satisfied with this draft seeing what is being said about these guys. Ottawa’s going to be a playoff warrior team once we get there.

Sure. You can send it to me.
And I’m familiar with what’s been said about the player. The draft analyst podcast also had a lot of good thing to say and described him as the super pest of the draft.

I just think in this draft especially with the players remaining it’s a bit high to draft A Mirko Ruutu.
I’m sure I’ll love the guy when he makes it but it’s the players we’ll have passed on that bother me.

Meh people say that every year. I hear constant complaints that they go off the board yet they did not so far this draft. I’ll choose to believe they made good picks all around rather than wallow in negativity. Only time will tell who makes it. and who doesn’t but the experts I trust are loving it so far

I think Sanderson is the pick that we look back on and regret making. Not because he won't be an impact player but because there was still a lot of flashy, high-end talent left on the board that we'll wish we had instead. Dorion also stated he sees Chabot, Sanderson, Brannstrom as out future LHD.

A few points:
- I never agree with drafting someone to play behind your best player, especially at 5th overall. Mind you, I think we did that with 3rd overall too?
- This does not bode well for Wolanin who just saw his replacement drafted. This gives Wolanin a two year window to play in Ottawa? If Sanderson is as good as Dorion thinks he is, he will be one and out from UND and will either be in the AHL or NHL after next season.
- Trading Stone for a bottom-pairing d-man is about as inept as it comes. What was once touted by Dorion himself as his best trade now looks like a complete oversight
- IMO if they wanted a d-man they should have drafted Drysdale. Top-pairing RHD are much more difficult to find.

Some other notes:
- Stutzle is a LW. I hope the Sens don't force him to play C if he's not capable of doing it. Everyone is saying he can play C, but if he's being put in a spot where he can't succeed then we should have drafted a center at #5
- I don't see any plan for how Ottawa can hit the cap floor while giving their young players a chance to play. I saw pick 28 as their chance of brining a top-six forward in, which would have changed my opinion of drafting Sanderson, but their biggest trade chip is now gone and I don't see any sort of plan
- Nick Paul was there for the jersey announcement. Hard to see the Sens not qualifying someone who was part of their brand re-launch. Where does he fit in? Does he push Formenton out?

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think Sanderson is the pick that we look back on and regret making. Not because he won't be an impact player but because there was still a lot of flashy, high-end talent left on the board that we'll wish we had instead. Dorion also stated he sees Chabot, Sanderson, Brannstrom as out future LHD.

A few points:
- I never agree with drafting someone to play behind your best player, especially at 5th overall. Mind you, I think we did that with 3rd overall too?
- This does not bode well for Wolanin who just saw his replacement drafted. This gives Wolanin a two year window to play in Ottawa? If Sanderson is as good as Dorion thinks he is, he will be one and out from UND and will either be in the AHL or NHL after next season.
- Trading Stone for a bottom-pairing d-man is about as inept as it comes. What was once touted by Dorion himself as his best trade now looks like a complete oversight
- IMO if they wanted a d-man they should have drafted Drysdale. Top-pairing RHD are much more difficult to find.

Some other notes:
- Stutzle is a LW. I hope the Sens don't force him to play C if he's not capable of doing it. Everyone is saying he can play C, but if he's being put in a spot where he can't succeed then we should have drafted a center at #5
- I don't see any plan for how Ottawa can hit the cap floor while giving their young players a chance to play. I saw pick 28 as their chance of brining a top-six forward in, which would have changed my opinion of drafting Sanderson, but their biggest trade chip is now gone and I don't see any sort of plan
- Nick Paul was there for the jersey announcement. Hard to see the Sens not qualifying someone who was part of their brand re-launch. Where does he fit in? Does he push Formenton out?

Brannstrom will eventually play right D on the first or second pair and Wolanin can be the bottom pair LD. They can also trade from a surplus if needed down the road like Nashville has done.

Stutzle will 100% play C with the Sens in his prime. He’s played C his whole life outside of one year. If he moves to wing down the road then so be it, he’ll be by far our best winger, but he will be a C unless he fails , then he’d be their top line LW

If Sanderson pans out you have him and Chabot patrolling the left side for 90 percent of the game. That's what successful teams have, a 1 2 punch that you can send out at all times.