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wprager


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Never said you were wrong or that I was right. Simply said that according to Roster Resource Part was playing on the fourth line. To which you replied, "Like I said, you're wrong."

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wprager wrote:Never said you were wrong or that I was right. Simply said that according to Roster Resource Part was playing on the fourth line. To which you replied, "Like I said, you're wrong."

Fair enough.

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You could have replied "Don't rely on Roster Resource because this time they were wrong".

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wprager wrote:You could have replied "Don't rely on Roster Resource because this time they were wrong".

I like Leftwinglock's approach to line combos. 

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http://www.leftwinglock.com/line-combinations/?player1=Tom+Pyatt&flag=y

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spader wrote:
wprager wrote:You could have replied "Don't rely on Roster Resource because this time they were wrong".

I like Leftwinglock's approach to line combos. 

Ottawa Senators (present and past) TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! - Page 63 Screen10

http://www.leftwinglock.com/line-combinations/?player1=Tom+Pyatt&flag=y
Never heard of that site. Good to know.

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I've heard of left wing lock but never looked it up. I found roster resource a few months ago. At the time I lurked how they were very quick on updating to account for injuries, suspensions and call-ups.

Taking a look at left wing lock, Pyatt spent a little time with Kelly, and looking at the 3 and 5 game risks it looks like he is spending increasingly more time with Pageau. So, working his way up from the 4th line. Good site.

Still maintain that both are best suited to 4th line roles right now, and we'd be a better team with only one of them in the lineup at any given time (or maybe if we were a better team we'd only have one of them in the lineup). Entering the playoffs, assuming only one is playing and on the 4th line, is still go with Kelly for the experience and versatility, but Pyatt would be right there ready to jump in.


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If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+

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PTFlea wrote:If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+
Really? A guy that hasn't hit the 20 goal plateau more than once and that in his first season in the NHL?

I'd rather pay a big price to get a much better winger. I've had enough of just looking to trade for average. We need a star on the wing or someone very close to it.

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+
Really? A guy that hasn't hit the 20 goal plateau more than once and that in his first season in the NHL?

I'd rather pay a big price to get a much better winger. I've had enough of just looking to trade for average. We need a star on the wing or someone very close to it.


He's so good though...like a Mark Stone with slightly lesser production. Love this player.

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PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+
Really? A guy that hasn't hit the 20 goal plateau more than once and that in his first season in the NHL?

I'd rather pay a big price to get a much better winger. I've had enough of just looking to trade for average. We need a star on the wing or someone very close to it.


He's so good though...like a Mark Stone with slightly lesser production.  Love this player.
But we need slightly more production. We need a guy that can either bring between 20 and 30 goals and then some other intangibles. Lando, duchenes are good examples. Probably would do much better in Ottawa too compared to where they are.

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+
Really? A guy that hasn't hit the 20 goal plateau more than once and that in his first season in the NHL?

I'd rather pay a big price to get a much better winger. I've had enough of just looking to trade for average. We need a star on the wing or someone very close to it.


He's so good though...like a Mark Stone with slightly lesser production.  Love this player.
But we need slightly more production. We need a guy that can either bring between 20 and 30 goals and then some other intangibles. Lando, duchenes are good examples. Probably would do much better in Ottawa too compared to where they are.

They'll cost a lot more. I dunno, adding Palat would be a massive thing.

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PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+
Really? A guy that hasn't hit the 20 goal plateau more than once and that in his first season in the NHL?

I'd rather pay a big price to get a much better winger. I've had enough of just looking to trade for average. We need a star on the wing or someone very close to it.


He's so good though...like a Mark Stone with slightly lesser production.  Love this player.

But we need slightly more production. We need a guy that can either bring between 20 and 30 goals and then some other intangibles. Lando, duchenes are good examples. Probably would do much better in Ottawa too compared to where they are.

They'll cost a lot more.  I dunno, adding Palat would be a massive thing.
Yup. But maybe that's where we are at.

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+
Really? A guy that hasn't hit the 20 goal plateau more than once and that in his first season in the NHL?

I'd rather pay a big price to get a much better winger. I've had enough of just looking to trade for average. We need a star on the wing or someone very close to it.


He's so good though...like a Mark Stone with slightly lesser production.  Love this player.

But we need slightly more production. We need a guy that can either bring between 20 and 30 goals and then some other intangibles. Lando, duchenes are good examples. Probably would do much better in Ottawa too compared to where they are.

They'll cost a lot more.  I dunno, adding Palat would be a massive thing.
Yup. But maybe that's where we are at.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=122662

Look at that production though. 59 points, 63, pro-rated 53. This is Mark Stone all over again - and also, hitting 60 points is the new 80 IMO, not many players can really do it anymore. I'd be surprised if there was 25 players in the whole league last year that hit 60 points.

He's close to Landeskog production-wise, all that's separating him are slightly more goal production.

Duchene is where it's at if we don't want Palat, but man...Palat is great.

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Palat has 5+3 in 8 games since coming back after missing 5 games. The injury itself was not disclosed but I wonder if it was something nagging that affected his production earlier?


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I don't see us adding any forward until Mac comes back and we see where his game is at. That right there could be the top 9 forward we're looking for.

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tim1_2 wrote:I don't see us adding any forward until Mac comes back and we see where his game is at. That right there could be the top 9 forward we're looking for.
After missing almost 2 years of playing hockey? You'll excuse me if I have my doubts on top of if how long his return will be for.

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PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:If Yzerman is selling any forward for a D-man, we should be all over Palat for Ceci+
Really? A guy that hasn't hit the 20 goal plateau more than once and that in his first season in the NHL?

I'd rather pay a big price to get a much better winger. I've had enough of just looking to trade for average. We need a star on the wing or someone very close to it.


He's so good though...like a Mark Stone with slightly lesser production.  Love this player.

But we need slightly more production. We need a guy that can either bring between 20 and 30 goals and then some other intangibles. Lando, duchenes are good examples. Probably would do much better in Ottawa too compared to where they are.

They'll cost a lot more.  I dunno, adding Palat would be a massive thing.
Yup. But maybe that's where we are at.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=122662

Look at that production though.  59 points, 63, pro-rated 53.  This is Mark Stone all over again - and also, hitting 60 points is the new 80 IMO, not many players can really do it anymore.  I'd be surprised if there was 25 players in the whole league last year that hit 60 points.

He's close to Landeskog production-wise, all that's separating him are slightly more goal production.

Duchene is where it's at if we don't want Palat, but man...Palat is great.
I look at how well palat did on a team that had some fairly good level of success and then Landon and duch and think there's a much better deal there.
Not that I wouldn't take palat but Ceci + ? I don't know about that.

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Flo The Action wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:I don't see us adding any forward until Mac comes back and we see where his game is at. That right there could be the top 9 forward we're looking for.
After missing almost 2 years of playing hockey? You'll excuse me if I have my doubts on top of if how long his return will be for.
There's plenty of time for ottawa to asses him before the deadline though

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