GDT: Sens @ Red Wings - Tuesday, Mar 31st, 7:30pm, TSN5, RDS2

Ev wrote:Lazar has more goals than "next St. Louis" Jonathan Drouin

I've never been impressed with Drouin, never. He's all flash.

NEELY wrote:

wprager wrote:What was wrong with Wiercioch's play last night?  And, in fact, the whole team's defensive play?  They made some really strange decisions in the O-zone (Turris' homage to Spezza that led to the goal, passing back to the point when you had a clear path to the net, whiffing on a pack at your feet) but they owned the Wings in their own zone.  Hammond allowed one goal and didn't get a star -- that should tell you something.

Haha nothing at all.  Amazes me a team can be held to 16 shots and someone says one of the D men wasn't good or even played poorly.  Wiercioch has been fine other than the odd poor game like against NYR where he and Ceci struggled.

We won't discuss what D man is only surviving at this point and even that's a stretch.

Gryba

mmmm gonna disagree... you can look up at the press box for your answer.

I thought you meant guys currently playing. I don't think gryba is here next season

Ev wrote:I thought you meant guys currently playing. I don't think gryba is here next season

I kind of agree... just too many guys to move for each and everyone of them to move though.

For the first time, I'll concede that Gryba will probably be gone - and it's not because he's not good, he's a quite good number 6 guy, but the more you watch the team, the more you see that they need a puck mover on every pairing. First pairing is obvious, 2nd pairing is Ceci, now you need a puck mover on the third pairing as well.

This would have been the (almost) optimum time to see Wideman, but in the thick of a playoff hunt, it may not be the greatest idea.

SpezDispensed wrote:For the first time, I'll concede that Gryba will probably be gone - and it's not because he's not good, he's a quite good number 6 guy, but the more you watch the team, the more you see that they need a puck mover on every pairing.  First pairing is obvious, 2nd pairing is Ceci, now you need a puck mover on the third pairing as well.  

This would have been the (almost) optimum time to see Wideman, but in the thick of a playoff hunt, it may not be the greatest idea.

I don't think they would risk moving Gryba until they could see what Wideman could do on an extended trial. We've got plenty of 7/8/callup lefties but on the right side we've got Gryba and Wideman, and we've only seen Wideman in a couple of warmups.

wprager wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:For the first time, I'll concede that Gryba will probably be gone - and it's not because he's not good, he's a quite good number 6 guy, but the more you watch the team, the more you see that they need a puck mover on every pairing.  First pairing is obvious, 2nd pairing is Ceci, now you need a puck mover on the third pairing as well.  

This would have been the (almost) optimum time to see Wideman, but in the thick of a playoff hunt, it may not be the greatest idea.

I don't think they would risk moving Gryba until they could see what Wideman could do on an extended trial.  We've got plenty of 7/8/callup lefties but on the right side we've got Gryba and Wideman, and we've only seen Wideman in a couple of warmups.  

I actually think that's a position that they might look at the free agent market or trade market to fill. We need another solid defender to push us up a notch. We'll see I guess, Wideman appears to deserve a chance, but perhaps someone like Michalek's brother?

SpezDispensed wrote:

wprager wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:For the first time, I'll concede that Gryba will probably be gone - and it's not because he's not good, he's a quite good number 6 guy, but the more you watch the team, the more you see that they need a puck mover on every pairing.  First pairing is obvious, 2nd pairing is Ceci, now you need a puck mover on the third pairing as well.  

This would have been the (almost) optimum time to see Wideman, but in the thick of a playoff hunt, it may not be the greatest idea.

I don't think they would risk moving Gryba until they could see what Wideman could do on an extended trial.  We've got plenty of 7/8/callup lefties but on the right side we've got Gryba and Wideman, and we've only seen Wideman in a couple of warmups.  

I actually think that's a position that they might look at the free agent market or trade market to fill.  We need another solid defender to push us up a notch.  We'll see I guess, Wideman appears to deserve a chance, but perhaps someone like Michalek's brother?

Michalek is making, what, $5M a year? Can't have that on the third pairing. That's the thing to remember -- we've got Karlsson and Ceci on the two top pairings so we're just looking for someone to move the puck on the third pairing and share PK responsibilities. Frankly I don't know how Wideman is on the PK, but we don't want to use Karlsson, and Ceci will need help (right now he's 2nd unit, I believe).

No, no. He's a ufa I believe and getting old. I think he's a 2.5 million a year guy tops, although who knows I guess.

SpezDispensed wrote:No, no.  He's a ufa I believe and getting old.  I think he's a 2.5 million a year guy tops, although who knows I guess.  

Didn't realize he was in nearing his mid-30s. And making $4M. Still, not that old and I don't know if either his salary or his ice time is going to come down to third-pairing levels.

Methot-Karlsson
Boro-Michalek
Wier-Ceci

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Ev wrote:Methot-Karlsson
Boro-Michalek
Wier-Ceci

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Yeah, seems possible too.

I thought Wikstrand was gonna light up the league next year

Yeah, the AHL.

SpezDispensed wrote:Yeah, the AHL.  

Good company for Lazar

LeCaptain wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:Yeah, the AHL.  

Good company for Lazar

That could happen for sure, although I think he can start gaining confidence in his offense here.