2013 NHL Playoffs Discussion

tim1_2 wrote:When you make the moves Shero made, you're making them to win the Cup. If you fail to win the Cup, you made bad moves. Maybe they should've made different moves, maybe they shouldn't have made any moves.

Perhaps the Penguins' biggest need was in goal, but I don't think there was a realistic way to get a significant upgrade.

Maybe Pittsburgh comes back in this series (stranger things have happened), and this discussion becomes something we bring back up and laugh about...but yeah, it seems for now that Shero Cussed something up.

Number Twenty Nine wrote:
The moves stink of ownership meddling. And we know a little about that, don't we.....

Hoags wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:
The moves stink of ownership meddling. And we know a little about that, don't we.....

More like Crosby meddling, he is the one who pushed for Iginla and convinced him to waive for the Pens and not Boston.

Shero's moves are typical deadline moves. They won't lose because of them but they sure aren't winning because of them either. Iginla and Morrow are supposed to make a difference when guys like Crosby, Malkin, Dupuis, Kunitz etc. are held off the scoresheet.

Once again Pittsburgh defence and goaltending is letting them down. That looks bad on Bylsma and Shero respectively.

NEELY wrote:The Pens still have 6 or 7 draft picks in this draft coming up but nothing in the top 75 or so. They can fill out their rosters with depth players but 5 years down the road when Crosby and Malkin have some miles on them... they may be in a lot of trouble.

As for Iggy, looks great on him and fact of the matter is he will never make that Pens team better then they were before he got there.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I'm in complete shock at this series so far. Not only have the Bruins beaten the Pens, they've dismantled them. The Pens look like we did last round.

Everyone is surprised that Pitt is getting man handled the way they are... but the people who are surprised Boston is up 2-0 shouldn't be, only those who ignore history are.

Ev wrote:
Like usual, your post reeks of bitterness.

Hoags wrote:

Ev wrote:
Like usual, your post reeks of bitterness.

No idea what you are talking about. Apparently I am bitter about what ?

Ev wrote:
Like usual, your post reeks of bitterness.

Ev wrote:
I think it's jsut how I read your posts. Like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino.

wprager wrote:At the time, I wondered if the only benefit for Pittsburgh getting Iggy was that it kept Iggy away from Boston. Imagine if Boston got Iggy and Pittsburgh got Jagr, though.

wprager wrote:Here's something to make you sad:

Redden, Chara, Hossa, Kelly, Emery, Daugavins are 2 wins away from being in the Cup Finals.

I guess the Pens should have tried harder to get someone -- anyone -- from the Sens roster.

SeawaySensFan wrote:It was only a matter of time:

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/04/pilot-asks-if-crying-baby-on-plane-is-sidney-crosby

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:Here's something to make you sad:

Redden, Chara, Hossa, Kelly, Emery, Daugavins are 2 wins away from being in the Cup Finals.

I guess the Pens should have tried harder to get someone -- anyone -- from the Sens roster.

Meh. A lot of teams could say similar things. Of those, only Chara & Hossa sting a little. The Hossa trade wasn't bad at the time (with only hindsight being able to predict the full douchiness of Heatley), so Chara is the one that hurts...and at the time Redden was pretty freaking good, so picking him over Chara didn't seem as ridiculous as it does now.

Plus, the Big Z and Hossa are two extremely likeable individuals, so it actually is kind of nice to see them have success.

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:Here's something to make you sad:

Redden, Chara, Hossa, Kelly, Emery, Daugavins are 2 wins away from being in the Cup Finals.

I guess the Pens should have tried harder to get someone -- anyone -- from the Sens roster.

Meh. A lot of teams could say similar things. Of those, only Chara & Hossa sting a little. The Hossa trade wasn't bad at the time (with only hindsight being able to predict the full douchiness of Heatley), so Chara is the one that hurts...and at the time Redden was pretty freaking good, so picking him over Chara didn't seem as ridiculous as it does now.

Plus, the Big Z and Hossa are two extremely likeable individuals, so it actually is kind of nice to see them have success.

I challenge you to find anyone who thought -- at the time -- that keeping Chara was not a slam-dunk decision.

Also, I may be in the minority, but I never understood the love for Redden. To me he was always just OK, nothing special.