GAME DAY: Boston Bruins @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - Thu. Mar. 21st, 2013

shabbs wrote:Yeah, back to back vs Boston will be tough for the Leafs... Tampa and New Jersey are the Sens' next two... gotta capitalize.

Just keep Brodeur off the scoresheet.

tim1_2 wrote:Those NHL.com stats are a little old. TSN's stats would have Boston at 2.10 and Ottawa at 2.16

Nope, NHL.com keeps theirs updated. TSN does not have team stats like that, so I assume you are just adding up the goalie goals given up, dividing by minutes total, multiplying by 60? There are also empty net goals to keep in mind.

Just go with the NHL.com stats.

SpezDispenser wrote:

LeKing wrote:Made Seidenberg look like a rookie on that one play

Where he flipped it up over him and skated by him? That would have been awesome if he had scored.

Daug had another rush with a shot from the other side -- would have been even more awesome if he had scored on that one.

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Those NHL.com stats are a little old. TSN's stats would have Boston at 2.10 and Ottawa at 2.16

Nope, NHL.com keeps theirs updated. TSN does not have team stats like that, so I assume you are just adding up the goalie goals given up, dividing by minutes total, multiplying by 60? There are also empty net goals to keep in mind.

Just go with the NHL.com stats.

I thought the same thing...but those NHL.com stats had fewer goals allowed for teams than TSN.

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Those NHL.com stats are a little old. TSN's stats would have Boston at 2.10 and Ottawa at 2.16

Nope, NHL.com keeps theirs updated. TSN does not have team stats like that, so I assume you are just adding up the goalie goals given up, dividing by minutes total, multiplying by 60? There are also empty net goals to keep in mind.

Just go with the NHL.com stats.

I thought the same thing...but those NHL.com stats had fewer goals allowed for teams than TSN.

TSN has Rask with 41 and Khudobin with 17 goals against -- total of 58. NHL.com has them with 60 goals against total (2EN).

Can you give a specific example?

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Those NHL.com stats are a little old. TSN's stats would have Boston at 2.10 and Ottawa at 2.16

Nope, NHL.com keeps theirs updated. TSN does not have team stats like that, so I assume you are just adding up the goalie goals given up, dividing by minutes total, multiplying by 60? There are also empty net goals to keep in mind.

Just go with the NHL.com stats.

ESPN updates theirs on the fly I think, or at least on the same day... nhl.com seems to wait until the next day I think...

http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/team/_/stat/scoring/sort/avgGoalsAgainst/order/false

1 Ottawa 2.03
2 Boston 2.07
3 Chicago 2.10
4 Anaheim 2.34
5 NY Rangers 2.37

Nice.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings/?show=league

shabbs wrote:

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Those NHL.com stats are a little old. TSN's stats would have Boston at 2.10 and Ottawa at 2.16

Nope, NHL.com keeps theirs updated. TSN does not have team stats like that, so I assume you are just adding up the goalie goals given up, dividing by minutes total, multiplying by 60? There are also empty net goals to keep in mind.

Just go with the NHL.com stats.

ESPN updates theirs on the fly I think, or at least on the same day... nhl.com seems to wait until the next day I think...

http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/team/_/stat/scoring/sort/avgGoalsAgainst/order/false

1 Ottawa 2.03
2 Boston 2.07
3 Chicago 2.10
4 Anaheim 2.34
5 NY Rangers 2.37

Nice.

Out of date. TSN has 67 GA for Ottawa, ESPN has 63. Big difference. Boston has 61 GA on TSN, 60 on ESPN.

The NHL.com stats are now up-to-date, and in-sync with the TSN stats.

Phew! Glad we got that settled.

tim1_2 wrote:The NHL.com stats are now up-to-date, and in-sync with the TSN stats.

ESPN FTW!

I just find it weird that TSN had the most up-to-date stats.

tim1_2 wrote:The NHL.com stats are now up-to-date, and in-sync with the TSN stats.

nhl.com is still showing Ottawa at 2.03 GA/G, while I can't find the stat on TSN. When you said 2.16, were you simply calculating 67 goals / 31 games = 2.16? Because I believe the NHL stat is actually goals against per 60 minutes, which would account for the difference.

ddt wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:The NHL.com stats are now up-to-date, and in-sync with the TSN stats.

nhl.com is still showing Ottawa at 2.03 GA/G, while I can't find the stat on TSN. When you said 2.16, were you simply calculating 67 goals / 31 games = 2.16? Because I believe the NHL stat is actually goals against per 60 minutes, which would account for the difference.

NHL and ESPN both had Ottawa listed with 62 GA, whereas they actually have 67 GA. NHL and ESPN had Boston listed with 60 GA when they actually have 61 GA. I was comparing with the same stat category.

tim1_2 wrote:Those NHL.com stats are a little old. TSN's stats would have Boston at 2.10 and Ottawa at 2.16

tim1_2 wrote:

ddt wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:The NHL.com stats are now up-to-date, and in-sync with the TSN stats.

nhl.com is still showing Ottawa at 2.03 GA/G, while I can't find the stat on TSN. When you said 2.16, were you simply calculating 67 goals / 31 games = 2.16? Because I believe the NHL stat is actually goals against per 60 minutes, which would account for the difference.

NHL and ESPN both had Ottawa listed with 62 GA, whereas they actually have 67 GA. NHL and ESPN had Boston listed with 60 GA when they actually have 61 GA. I was comparing with the same stat category.

At the time I checked this morning, NHL.com was already at 67 goals against and 31 games played, so that does not account for the discrepancy in numbers. However, now that I look at your original post, you said "would have", so I assume you did a simple division. NHL does not calculate GA/G that way, so that's why we have different numbers.

NHL.com's regular stats are up-to-date: http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?type=lea#&navid=nav-stn-league

Their advanced stats are not: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20122013&gameType=2&viewName=goalsAgainst

Don't forget about the SO losses. The SO winner shows up in the final goal count but that SO winner does not count in the GA/G calculation (which is based on actual paying time and normalized to 60 minutes of *hockey*). I just did this the hard way, from the schedule, and the Sens have had 62 goals scored against them in regulation+OT.

NHL.com FTW, MF!

Whoa....the Goals Against column counts shootout winners?? WTF?