Trade Bonanza 2012! Speculation, Rumours, the Works!

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Oh there'll be movement....

For example:

Washington CANNOT let Semin walk in the summer, they must try to get something in return for him, also must move Knuble and try to get some kind of a 2nd line C (they should have acquired Turris).

Carolina CANNOT afford to not re-sign Ruutu and let him walk in the summer

Carolina must move their UFA D-men - period

Edmonton must re-sign Hemsky, but if they don't he MUST be moved before he walks.

Columbus really should try to get Carter out of town before he gets injured again. Pahlsson etc. all the UFAs from Columbus.

And on and on, there'll be movement....no worries.

Errrm....deal in absolutes much?

For Semin/Knuble, I could see both of those guys easily staying put. Washington is in the middle of a playoff race, and teams in this kind of position are usually reluctant to trade away roster players.

Ruutu is injured, so that'll diminish his trade value. He may be resigned (this doesn't do anything for Trade Deadline day).

Hemsky SHOULD be traded (finally).

Columbus...well, agreed, the fire sale should be in full-swing. Trading Carter and/or Nash may not happen until the off-season though. A guy like Pahlsson won't bring in much, so the Blue Jacket's impact on Deadline Day may be minimal.

So, no doubt that there will be trades made, but they may all be pretty minor (again).

It's all yakkityyak at this point, and as more teams fall out of the playoff picture (or climb back in), we'll be able to better speculate as to how interesting the 27th will be.

SpezDispenser wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Oh there'll be movement....

For example:

Washington CANNOT let Semin walk in the summer, they must try to get something in return for him, also must move Knuble and try to get some kind of a 2nd line C (they should have acquired Turris).

Carolina CANNOT afford to not re-sign Ruutu and let him walk in the summer

Carolina must move their UFA D-men - period

Edmonton must re-sign Hemsky, but if they don't he MUST be moved before he walks.

Columbus really should try to get Carter out of town before he gets injured again. Pahlsson etc. all the UFAs from Columbus.

And on and on, there'll be movement....no worries.

Errrm....deal in absolutes much?

For Semin/Knuble, I could see both of those guys easily staying put. Washington is in the middle of a playoff race, and teams in this kind of position are usually reluctant to trade away roster players.

Ruutu is injured, so that'll diminish his trade value. He may be resigned (this doesn't do anything for Trade Deadline day).

Hemsky SHOULD be traded (finally).

Columbus...well, agreed, the fire sale should be in full-swing. Trading Carter and/or Nash may not happen until the off-season though. A guy like Pahlsson won't bring in much, so the Blue Jacket's impact on Deadline Day may be minimal.

So, no doubt that there will be trades made, but they may all be pretty minor (again).

It's all yakkityyak at this point, and as more teams fall out of the playoff picture (or climb back in), we'll be able to better speculate as to how interesting the 27th will be.

I'll bet $$ on Washington making a move of some sort - and I think it'll center around Semin ++.

Knuble is gone, if he's not traded by the deadline, I'll be shocked.

sandysensfan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Ottawa not on Nash's list - which is probably a good thing.

TSN suggests:

Vancouver, Philly, NYR, Toronto, Kings.

Would he not want to go where they have a true #1 centre? He has spent his entire career in Columbus not playing with one... 4 of those teams has that... one doesn't. But of course, he is from Brampton -- so I heard.. so I guess that's where Toronto fits in... but what would they have to give up to get him? A signed Grabovski? Lupul? Schenn? -- a lot more than Kadri & Komisarek + a #1 pick.. that's all the Leaf fans think it would cost to get Nash...

SpezDispenser wrote:I'll bet $$ on Washington making a move of some sort - and I think it'll center around Semin ++.

Knuble is gone, if he's not traded by the deadline, I'll be shocked.

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I'll bet $$ on Washington making a move of some sort - and I think it'll center around Semin ++.

Knuble is gone, if he's not traded by the deadline, I'll be shocked.

I guess I could see Semin being traded if the return includes a competent NHL winger. It's hard to imagine Washington would trade guys away without roster players coming back, as they are in the mix. And those aren't the kind of trades you see at the deadline.

Same goes for Knuble.

shabbs wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Ottawa not on Nash's list - which is probably a good thing.

TSN suggests:

Vancouver, Philly, NYR, Toronto, Kings.

Would he not want to go where they have a true #1 centre? He has spent his entire career in Columbus not playing with one... 4 of those teams has that... one doesn't. But of course, he is from Brampton -- so I heard.. so I guess that's where Toronto fits in... but what would they have to give up to get him? A signed Grabovski? Lupul? Schenn? -- a lot more than Kadri & Komisarek + a #1 pick.. that's all the Leaf fans think it would cost to get Nash...

An offer from Toronto is likely going to include Gardiner for sure. One of Kadri, MacArthur, Colborne will probably have to be included and a 1st. If I was Columbus, I'd ask for Gardiner, MacArthur and a 1st. Heh. Schenn could also be on the table I guess. Forget Kadri. Bust.

Number Twenty Nine wrote:

shabbs wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Ottawa not on Nash's list - which is probably a good thing.

TSN suggests:

Vancouver, Philly, NYR, Toronto, Kings.

Would he not want to go where they have a true #1 centre? He has spent his entire career in Columbus not playing with one... 4 of those teams has that... one doesn't. But of course, he is from Brampton -- so I heard.. so I guess that's where Toronto fits in... but what would they have to give up to get him? A signed Grabovski? Lupul? Schenn? -- a lot more than Kadri & Komisarek + a #1 pick.. that's all the Leaf fans think it would cost to get Nash...

An offer from Toronto is likely going to include Gardiner for sure. One of Kadri, MacArthur, Colborne will probably have to be included and a 1st. If I was Columbus, I'd ask for Gardiner, MacArthur and a 1st. Heh. Schenn could also be on the table I guess. Forget Kadri. Bust.

I especially like how Murray played Jurke in the 2009 draft. I remember him asking Jurke (since the laffs were ahead in the draft) if he wanted Kadri, because Murray said he wanted him. Jurke picked Kadri, Murray picked Cowan. The End. Nice.

SeawaySensFan wrote:James "Jurke's Boyfriend" Dutchie just got off the air on TSN Radio after discrediting Eklund and basically saying his rumours are a nuisance and not legit. Next up on 1050? Eklund himself (maybe).

SeawaySensFan wrote:James "Jurke's Boyfriend" Dutchie just got off the air on TSN Radio after discrediting Eklund and basically saying his rumours are a nuisance and not legit. Next up on 1050? Eklund himself (maybe).

Number Twenty Nine wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:James "Jurke's Boyfriend" Dutchie just got off the air on TSN Radio after discrediting Eklund and basically saying his rumours are a nuisance and not legit. Next up on 1050? Eklund himself (maybe).

so essentially the real hack is critical of the fake hack?

Big Ev wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:

shabbs wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Ottawa not on Nash's list - which is probably a good thing.

TSN suggests:

Vancouver, Philly, NYR, Toronto, Kings.

Would he not want to go where they have a true #1 centre? He has spent his entire career in Columbus not playing with one... 4 of those teams has that... one doesn't. But of course, he is from Brampton -- so I heard.. so I guess that's where Toronto fits in... but what would they have to give up to get him? A signed Grabovski? Lupul? Schenn? -- a lot more than Kadri & Komisarek + a #1 pick.. that's all the Leaf fans think it would cost to get Nash...

An offer from Toronto is likely going to include Gardiner for sure. One of Kadri, MacArthur, Colborne will probably have to be included and a 1st. If I was Columbus, I'd ask for Gardiner, MacArthur and a 1st. Heh. Schenn could also be on the table I guess. Forget Kadri. Bust.

I especially like how Murray played Jurke in the 2009 draft. I remember him asking Jurke (since the laffs were ahead in the draft) if he wanted Kadri, because Murray said he wanted him. Jurke picked Kadri, Murray picked Cowan. The End. Nice.

not this again lol

shabbs wrote:Kane for Miller talks are heating up...

The madness starts...

shabbs wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Ottawa not on Nash's list - which is probably a good thing.

TSN suggests:

Vancouver, Philly, NYR, Toronto, Kings.

Would he not want to go where they have a true #1 centre? He has spent his entire career in Columbus not playing with one... 4 of those teams has that... one doesn't. But of course, he is from Brampton -- so I heard.. so I guess that's where Toronto fits in... but what would they have to give up to get him? A signed Grabovski? Lupul? Schenn? -- a lot more than Kadri & Komisarek + a #1 pick.. that's all the Leaf fans think it would cost to get Nash...

An offer from Toronto is likely going to include Gardiner for sure. One of Kadri, MacArthur, Colborne will probably have to be included and a 1st. If I was Columbus, I'd ask for Gardiner, MacArthur and a 1st. Heh. Schenn could also be on the table I guess. Forget Kadri. Bust.

SpezDispenser wrote:Schenn was a scratch last night? Why is he struggling so much?

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Schenn was a scratch last night? Why is he struggling so much?

He's a young defenceman who is in over his head. He plays in a pressure-cooker, with an a-hole for a coach. Plus, who is his partner each night? The answer can't be good.

He doesn't have confidence, and Wilson won't play him with enough regularity to gain confidence.