Last weekend for Murray / Clouston

I don't mind the extension, would have preferred 2 due to his age.

There's another thread for this!

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Big Ev wrote:72 year old Bryan Murraywill walk -up the draft podium in 3 years with a cane...or on a rascal scooter

Yeah. Probably because he slipped on the ice during the Cup celebration we will be seeing around that time.

Hopefully. Or perhaps he "mysteriously" fell down some stairs after another losing season....

If Cory Clouston is re-signed too, then this franchise is clueless.

SDH89 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Big Ev wrote:72 year old Bryan Murraywill walk -up the draft podium in 3 years with a cane...or on a rascal scooter

Yeah. Probably because he slipped on the ice during the Cup celebration we will be seeing around that time.

Hopefully. Or perhaps he "mysteriously" fell down some stairs after another losing season....

I could see The Ringmaster precipitating the "fall" for sure. Specially after what he did to Marshy.

Ian Mendes:

Bryan Murray says a decision on Clouston's future as head coach will be made in conjunction with Eugene Melnyk after reg season ends.

Big Ev wrote:If Cory Clouston is re-signed too, then this franchise is clueless.

He's got a 63-43-10 record. That's actually not bad, considering how the goaltending went this year.

Hoags wrote:Ian Mendes:

Bryan Murray says a decision on Clouston's future as head coach will be made in conjunction with Eugene Melnyk after reg season ends.

Diddle.....Dave Cameron it is I guess

wprager wrote:

Big Ev wrote:If Cory Clouston is re-signed too, then this franchise is clueless.

He's got a 63-43-10 record. That's actually not bad, considering how the goaltending went this year.

It's actually a lot better than not bad. But no amount of justification is good enough for some people.

Thanks for posting the numbers.

Big Ev wrote:72 year old Bryan Murraywill walk -up the draft podium in 3 years with a cane...or on a rascal scooter

You must be a kid. The fact that you don't think a 70 year old can be a GM is just ignorant. Check out the ages of Supreme Court judges.

Oglethorpe wrote:

Big Ev wrote:72 year old Bryan Murraywill walk -up the draft podium in 3 years with a cane...or on a rascal scooter

You must be a kid. The fact that you don't think a 70 year old can be a GM is just ignorant. Check out the ages of Supreme Court judges.

Spoken like an old man!!

Great that they are keeping him on, it gives The Sens and the entire organization the sense of stability and it allows for them to stay the course with one specific plan in place, not a ton of different hands in the cookie jar.

As for Ev's comment on keeping Clouston... this is his first losing season in Ottawa and fact of the matter is, everything that could go wrong went wrong for The Sens. Richardson's tragidy threw things off, obviously a minor thing in the grand scheme of life but in terms of hockey, that messed with them. Bad goaltending hurt, Leclaire being an absolute bandaid, Kuba being hurt 5 mins into the pre-season, so on.

Clouston made some mistakes this year but a lot of it he can't control. It's not like they are missing the boat on some coach if they decide to go with CLouston again next year, he may be the right guy to bring these kids along. He's done a great job with Karlsson, Lee, seems to be doing a good job with the kids in Butler, Greening, and Condra, and he somehow looks like a decent coach when he gets saves from his goaltender.

I hope they keep him because he is clearly a good enough coach for this team and like I and others have said before, the grass isn't always greener.

Having Clouston on a one-year deal probably empowered some dissidents in the room too.

Either way, I doubt he's kept around if The Ringmaster has his heart set on rewarding Cameron's loyalty.

We'll see, I think CLouston has proven he is a capable NHL coach and deserves at least a 1 year extension to prove once again he can get results with a group everyone doubts.

Anahiem got rid of Babcock and Detroit gladly snatched him up... turned out pretty well for The Wings. Turned out well for The Ducks as well with Carlyle, great hireing by Burke.

Oglethorpe wrote:

Big Ev wrote:72 year old Bryan Murraywill walk -up the draft podium in 3 years with a cane...or on a rascal scooter

You must be a kid. The fact that you don't think a 70 year old can be a GM is just ignorant. Check out the ages of Supreme Court judges.

Everybody complains about the government all the time.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Having Clouston on a one-year deal probably empowered some dissidents in the room too.

Either way, I doubt he's kept around if The Ringmaster has his heart set on rewarding Cameron's loyalty.

NEELY wrote:We'll see, I think CLouston has proven he is a capable NHL coach and deserves at least a 1 year extension to prove once again he can get results with a group everyone doubts.

Anahiem got rid of Babcock and Detroit gladly snatched him up... turned out pretty well for The Wings. Turned out well for The Ducks as well with Carlyle, great hireing by Burke.

I think SSF makes a good point about one of the drawbacks of a 1-year term for a head coach. Granted, the Sens cleaned house and potentially excised those who resisted CC. I think it's a valid concern, though, when the team is only willing to lock in for 1-year.

I don't know the right answer. I know that CC made some absolutely bone-headed decisions this year, but I also know that he seems to have resolved some of the recurring problems (PK has been fantastic, the Too Many Men era appears to be over, etc). Should he stay on? Maybe. Will he? After EM's comments about Cameron, probably not.

spader wrote:I think SSF makes a good point about one of the drawbacks of a 1-year term for a head coach. Granted, the Sens cleaned house and potentially excised those who resisted CC. I think it's a valid concern, though, when the team is only willing to lock in for 1-year.

I don't know the right answer. I know that CC made some absolutely bone-headed decisions this year, but I also know that he seems to have resolved some of the recurring problems (PK has been fantastic, the Too Many Men era appears to be over, etc). Should he stay on? Maybe. Will he? After EM's comments about Cameron, probably not.

I think a 1-year deal is fine in the current climate. Clouston is far from perfect too, that's a fact, but he does have the ability to win games in the NHL more often than he loses.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

spader wrote:I think SSF makes a good point about one of the drawbacks of a 1-year term for a head coach. Granted, the Sens cleaned house and potentially excised those who resisted CC. I think it's a valid concern, though, when the team is only willing to lock in for 1-year.

I don't know the right answer. I know that CC made some absolutely bone-headed decisions this year, but I also know that he seems to have resolved some of the recurring problems (PK has been fantastic, the Too Many Men era appears to be over, etc). Should he stay on? Maybe. Will he? After EM's comments about Cameron, probably not.

I think a 1-year deal is fine in the current climate. Clouston is far from perfect too, that's a fact, but he does have the ability to win games in the NHL more often than he loses.

You're probably right. Like I said (or at least hinted), I'm not sure that CC's abilities necessarily have much to do with the decision at this point. EM seems to have made up his mind. It's really a matter of how much agency BM has and what his opinion is on the CC/Cameron question.