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I don't think you will see many players slacking with close to 1/3 of the team being on ECL deals.

NEELY wrote:I don't think you will see many players slacking with close to 1/3 of the team being on ECL deals.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't want to see 1 player slack for 1 shift next year. If this year taught the remaining guys anything, it's that if you slack, you'll be replaced by someone who won't slack.

Kuba will be the key here. I really think one of rundblad and cowen (or both) will need to start the season in the AHL and spend significant time there. That would be mean that Kuba will still be on the team

I would like to know what happened in Colorado this year with Anderson - and what the chances of that happening again are. I assume he'll be paid close to 3.5 for argument's sake, and that's a lot of $$. I already love him, his confidence, his character, the way he directs the D, his stick-handling - everything, but it would be nice to know what the deal really was in Colorado.

NEELY wrote:I don't think you will see many players slacking with close to 1/3 of the team being on ECL deals.

For a split-second I was, like "East Coast League?"

Did you mean two-way deals, actually? I don't think an ELC has to be two-way. I can definitely see players on two-way contracts playing their arses off (last-year-Lee notwithstanding).

SpezDispenser wrote:I would like to know what happened in Colorado this year with Anderson - and what the chances of that happening again are. I assume he'll be paid close to 3.5 for argument's sake, and that's a lot of $$. I already love him, his confidence, his character, the way he directs the D, his stick-handling - everything, but it would be nice to know what the deal really was in Colorado.

The Goalie Guild talked about it a few days ago (not sure how much they know).

Nobody outside of Colorado understands the Anderson trade because nobody realizes how unhappy he was with the coaching and his situation.

Avs were stuck. He turned down a generous offer earlier in the year, and that was that. He was never going to regain last year's form in CO.

I'm curious to know the terms of that offer. I'm surprised no one has published anything yet.

Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I would like to know what happened in Colorado this year with Anderson - and what the chances of that happening again are. I assume he'll be paid close to 3.5 for argument's sake, and that's a lot of $$. I already love him, his confidence, his character, the way he directs the D, his stick-handling - everything, but it would be nice to know what the deal really was in Colorado.

The Goalie Guild talked about it a few days ago (not sure how much they know).

Nobody outside of Colorado understands the Anderson trade because nobody realizes how unhappy he was with the coaching and his situation.

Avs were stuck. He turned down a generous offer earlier in the year, and that was that. He was never going to regain last year's form in CO.

Interesting if true. It certainly would explain some of his issues this season.

Michallica wrote:Kuba will be the key here. I really think one of rundblad and cowen (or both) will need to start the season in the AHL and spend significant time there. That would be mean that Kuba will still be on the team

Rundblad is NHL ready, Cowen, maybe, maybe not.

wprager wrote:

NEELY wrote:I don't think you will see many players slacking with close to 1/3 of the team being on ECL deals.

For a split-second I was, like "East Coast League?"

Did you mean two-way deals, actually? I don't think an ELC has to be two-way. I can definitely see players on two-way contracts playing their arses off (last-year-Lee notwithstanding).

I think all ECL's are two way deals.

Michallica wrote:Kuba will be the key here. I really think one of rundblad and cowen (or both) will need to start the season in the AHL and spend significant time there. That would be mean that Kuba will still be on the team

I think he'll be on the team because he'll be hard to move, but you never know I guess. Not a massive risk for one year @ 3.7 and we could really use some veteran players on the backend.

SeawaySensFan wrote:I'm curious to know the terms of that offer. I'm surprised no one has published anything yet.

2 year, 7.5 million total.

Hoags wrote:
The Goalie Guild talked about it a few days ago (not sure how much they know).

Nobody outside of Colorado understands the Anderson trade because nobody realizes how unhappy he was with the coaching and his situation.

Avs were stuck. He turned down a generous offer earlier in the year, and that was that. He was never going to regain last year's form in CO.

Thanks for that. I thought it was Sacco, but did that make Anderson suck the way he did?

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I'm curious to know the terms of that offer. I'm surprised no one has published anything yet.

2 year, 7.5 million total.

Hmmm. I'm not sure I like that.

NEELY wrote:

wprager wrote:

NEELY wrote:I don't think you will see many players slacking with close to 1/3 of the team being on ECL deals.

For a split-second I was, like "East Coast League?"

Did you mean two-way deals, actually? I don't think an ELC has to be two-way. I can definitely see players on two-way contracts playing their arses off (last-year-Lee notwithstanding).

I think all ECL's are two way deals.

All ELC's are two way, yes.

SpezDispenser wrote:
Thanks for that. I thought it was Sacco, but did that make Anderson suck the way he did?

http://thegoalieguild.com/2011/02/andersontradedforelliott/#more-6023

Simply put, he didn’t seem happy at all being in this situation. I think he was unhappy with some of the coaching decisions, unhappy with the lack of support, and extremely frustrated with his own lack of success. It became a downward spiral of sorts, and a trade was made.

Avs don't have a full-time goalie coach. I'd imagine it's tough for a struggling goalie to get some help and feedback when the goalie coach only comes by a few times a month.

NEELY wrote:

Michallica wrote:Kuba will be the key here. I really think one of rundblad and cowen (or both) will need to start the season in the AHL and spend significant time there. That would be mean that Kuba will still be on the team

Rundblad is NHL ready, Cowen, maybe, maybe not.

I'd like to believe that. I unfortunately also believed that when Bryan Murray proclaimed Brian Lee was ready after the '07-'08 season.

Michallica wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Michallica wrote:Kuba will be the key here. I really think one of rundblad and cowen (or both) will need to start the season in the AHL and spend significant time there. That would be mean that Kuba will still be on the team

Rundblad is NHL ready, Cowen, maybe, maybe not.

I'd like to believe that. I unfortunately also believed that when Bryan Murray proclaimed Brian Lee was ready after the '07-'08 season.

He also said it about Karlsson and EK spent some time in Bingo but not a lot.