I just really hope he doesn't take out a page in the paper for a thank you letter
Edit: supposed to be
Edit: supposed to be
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rooneypoo wrote:Fisher I understood. $4.2 mil, not really clear if he was a top 2 centre. A playoff performer more than a regular season guy. A tough move, but one that had to be made. Plus, a 1st makes it worthwhile.
Kelly, I don't get. This guy is a leader, steady as they come, plays all roles, affordable, loyal. A 2nd is not enough for those things. If that all the offers are, just keep him.
rooneypoo wrote:Fisher I understood. $4.2 mil, not really clear if he was a top 2 centre. A playoff performer more than a regular season guy. A tough move, but one that had to be made. Plus, a 1st makes it worthwhile.
Kelly, I don't get. This guy is a leader, steady as they come, plays all roles, affordable, loyal. A 2nd is not enough for those things. If that all the offers are, just keep him.
Oglethorpe wrote:So you keep him around for 1 more year so that he can play 3rd line centre in front of Smith or Winchester ?rooneypoo wrote:Oglethorpe wrote:What would you expect the return to be. He's not worth a 1st.rooneypoo wrote:Yuck.
There's nothing redeemable about this. A 2nd for Kelly. Diddle.
I expect you don't trade a guy like Kelly for anything less than a big-time overpay.
I get that Chris Kelly was a good player, but he isn't worth more than a 2nd, he wasn't going to be around when the team is competitive again and he is a big part of the culture that EVERYONE has been clamouring to change.
This is going to be a complete rebuild and it's about time. I hope Kelly and Fisher excel with their new team's, but we will be better off in the long run blowing this thing right up.
rooneypoo wrote:Oglethorpe wrote:So you keep him around for 1 more year so that he can play 3rd line centre in front of Smith or Winchester ?rooneypoo wrote:Oglethorpe wrote:What would you expect the return to be. He's not worth a 1st.rooneypoo wrote:Yuck.
There's nothing redeemable about this. A 2nd for Kelly. Diddle.
I expect you don't trade a guy like Kelly for anything less than a big-time overpay.
I get that Chris Kelly was a good player, but he isn't worth more than a 2nd, he wasn't going to be around when the team is competitive again and he is a big part of the culture that EVERYONE has been clamouring to change.
This is going to be a complete rebuild and it's about time. I hope Kelly and Fisher excel with their new team's, but we will be better off in the long run blowing this thing right up.
I agree, a 2nd is actually a good return for someone of Kelly's skill level.
But to me, you need guys to build around, for all kinds of reasons, and Kelly was one of them. Kelly, Neil, Spezza, Alfie, Karlsson. Personally, I've got Phillips in there too, but with this trade, all bets are definitely off.
jawal wrote:rooneypoo wrote:Fisher I understood. $4.2 mil, not really clear if he was a top 2 centre. A playoff performer more than a regular season guy. A tough move, but one that had to be made. Plus, a 1st makes it worthwhile.
Kelly, I don't get. This guy is a leader, steady as they come, plays all roles, affordable, loyal. A 2nd is not enough for those things. If that all the offers are, just keep him.
I agree entirely with your post.
Kelly is a bonafide NHL player and our best PKer traded for a mid to late 2nd round pick which is a lottery ticket, some times you get NHLer with the pick sometimes you don't.
Big Ev wrote:It is sad to see him go, but it's time for a rebuild for sure. If they feel they needed to get rid of guys like Kelly, then so be it I guess. Maybe they will package picks to move up in each round, who knows.
I think it's only a matter of time for Neil for sure. A 2nd rounder would probably be a real solid return.SDH89 wrote:I have a feeling we'll see Neil on the move as well, now.
rooneypoo wrote:jawal wrote:rooneypoo wrote:Fisher I understood. $4.2 mil, not really clear if he was a top 2 centre. A playoff performer more than a regular season guy. A tough move, but one that had to be made. Plus, a 1st makes it worthwhile.
Kelly, I don't get. This guy is a leader, steady as they come, plays all roles, affordable, loyal. A 2nd is not enough for those things. If that all the offers are, just keep him.
I agree entirely with your post.
Kelly is a bonafide NHL player and our best PKer traded for a mid to late 2nd round pick which is a lottery ticket, some times you get NHLer with the pick sometimes you don't.
My only hope is that what we're doing is acquiring bargaining chips we can us to move up a few spots in the first round, whether on the NSH pick or some other pick. I could handle giving up Fisher & Kelly if it meant we could parlay those 2 picks into a top 10 pick in the first round. Something like that, anyway.
Oglethorpe wrote:If Kelly were to be an RFA after next year rather than UFA, I would imagine he would not have been dealt.
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