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Hoags wrote:Svatos hasn't impressed in a long time I am not counting on that.

Big Ev wrote:

Hoags wrote:Those buyouts will come off our cap just at the time Erik Karlsson will be due for a hefty raise on his next contract.

I'd sign him for $3 million for 4 years.

spader wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

spader wrote:Just looked at the Sens page on capgeek...that's a lot of orange.

Lots of cap space coming, too, I bet.

We've got $37M locked up next year for 14 players. I don't know how the B-town players that will move up to the NHL factor into those numbers though. What I do know is that Murray has some work to do regarding the RFAs and UFAs this summer. Butler, Greening, Condra, Svatos, Shannon, Smith, Lessard, Phillips, Campoli, Anderson, Wick, Hale, Brodeur, Kinrade, Benoit, Derek Smith, Daugavins, Keller, Bailey, Bass are all FAs of one kind or another. I left Glasscal off the list for obvious reasons, but that's like 20 players that he has to deal with. Some will walk for sure (Bailey comes to mind), but many of those players will need a new contract. I don't envy the workload that BM (or his replacement) has this summer.

Oglethorpe wrote:

spader wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

spader wrote:Just looked at the Sens page on capgeek...that's a lot of orange.

Lots of cap space coming, too, I bet.

We've got $37M locked up next year for 14 players. I don't know how the B-town players that will move up to the NHL factor into those numbers though. What I do know is that Murray has some work to do regarding the RFAs and UFAs this summer. Butler, Greening, Condra, Svatos, Shannon, Smith, Lessard, Phillips, Campoli, Anderson, Wick, Hale, Brodeur, Kinrade, Benoit, Derek Smith, Daugavins, Keller, Bailey, Bass are all FAs of one kind or another. I left Glasscal off the list for obvious reasons, but that's like 20 players that he has to deal with. Some will walk for sure (Bailey comes to mind), but many of those players will need a new contract. I don't envy the workload that BM (or his replacement) has this summer.

The vast majority of the players listed will get the minimum raise or walk to another organization. His only challenges should be Phillips, Anderson and maybe Campoli if he isn't moved.

Big Ev wrote:

Hoags wrote:Those buyouts will come off our cap just at the time Erik Karlsson will be due for a hefty raise on his next contract.

I'd sign him for $3 million for 4 years.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Hoags wrote:Those buyouts will come off our cap just at the time Erik Karlsson will be due for a hefty raise on his next contract.

I'd sign him for $3 million for 4 years.

Or 10 years, 55 million?

spader wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Hoags wrote:Those buyouts will come off our cap just at the time Erik Karlsson will be due for a hefty raise on his next contract.

I'd sign him for $3 million for 4 years.

Or 10 years, 55 million?

That's crazy.

Hoags wrote:No way his agent accepts a long term deal unless its a huge overpayment, like a diPietro contact.

He'll take a 2-3 year deal and see if he can raise his value even more, he already has an all-star appearance and leads the team in scoring.

I wouldn't give him a huge contact until he earns it anyway, don't want to Alex Daigle the kids.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:No way his agent accepts a long term deal unless its a huge overpayment, like a diPietro contact.

He'll take a 2-3 year deal and see if he can raise his value even more, he already has an all-star appearance and leads the team in scoring.

I wouldn't give him a huge contact until he earns it anyway, don't want to Alex Daigle the kids.

Again, Keith is his comparable - and Keith was coming off the best season a guy can have pretty much.

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:No way his agent accepts a long term deal unless its a huge overpayment, like a diPietro contact.

He'll take a 2-3 year deal and see if he can raise his value even more, he already has an all-star appearance and leads the team in scoring.

I wouldn't give him a huge contact until he earns it anyway, don't want to Alex Daigle the kids.

Again, Keith is his comparable - and Keith was coming off the best season a guy can have pretty much.

Whoa, slow down. Keith isn't Karlsson's comparable, not at this stage. Not even close. Right now, Karlsson hasn't done a lot. He's a kid, and he has the potential to be great, but he's in his infancy, basically. Let's hold up on this for a while. Erik Johnson signed a 2 year / 5 mil deal after his ELC expired. That's more of a comparable for EK right now, looking to 2012.

stempniaksen wrote:Keith is not comparable at all, because Keith is a heck of a lot better than Karlsson is (or at least was that season).

I think a 2nd contract with a lower hit is gonna be important to gauge where this guy is at in the coming years.

EDIT: Beaten to the puch, haha.

Were the Senators asking too much for Phillips. In some circles, it's believed they did. The Habs pretty well got Sopel for a fourth rounder

Hoags wrote:http://twitter.com/#!/allenpanzeri/status/40923276918276096

Were the Senators asking too much for Phillips. In some circles, it's believed they did. The Habs pretty well got Sopel for a fourth rounder

I'd say that's true.

stempniaksen wrote:Keith is not comparable at all, because Keith is a heck of a lot better than Karlsson is (or at least was that season).

I think a 2nd contract with a lower hit is gonna be important to gauge where this guy is at in the coming years.

EDIT: Beaten to the puch, haha.