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GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - THUR. Dec. 2, 2010

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Riprock


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From all accounts, isn't Bobby Butler the closest thing we have to a sniper that would be a perfect compliment to Spezza? Spezza's a guy that likes to control the puck and create space... and Butler seems like the kind of guy that thrives on getting open and set for a one timer, like Heatley. If the Sens have any hopes for him becoming a top line sniper, they might as well do it now. Give him that spot permanently even if he does nothing, you keep him there.

wprager


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Dash wrote:From all accounts, isn't Bobby Butler the closest thing we have to a sniper that would be a perfect compliment to Spezza? Spezza's a guy that likes to control the puck and create space... and Butler seems like the kind of guy that thrives on getting open and set for a one timer, like Heatley. If the Sens have any hopes for him becoming a top line sniper, they might as well do it now. Give him that spot permanently even if he does nothing, you keep him there.

Regin did pretty well in the playoffs being fed by the Spezz Dispenser. So much so that everyone thought this was it. Allow me to remain a bit skeptical about a guy with, what, 2 NHL games and zero points under his belt?

CockRoche


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Dash wrote:From all accounts, isn't Bobby Butler the closest thing we have to a sniper that would be a perfect compliment to Spezza? Spezza's a guy that likes to control the puck and create space... and Butler seems like the kind of guy that thrives on getting open and set for a one timer, like Heatley. If the Sens have any hopes for him becoming a top line sniper, they might as well do it now. Give him that spot permanently even if he does nothing, you keep him there.

Come on Dash. You need to develop these kids properly, leave Butler in the AHL for this season and reevaluate at the start of the 2011 campaign.

Simply, if you bring up Butler now and keep him up just because, you are actually promoting him to become a one-dimensional hockey player. Keep him down, learn the game and all aspects of it. He also needs an offseason to start eating and lifting to for peeps sake.

CockRoche

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Flo The Action wrote:oh man, waiking up to this is no surprise. yes this team had overachieved last year, yes we are closer to showing our true colours this year. the story is, we have some aging players that we are asking too much from. Alfie for one looked like he played a full game after the first period, bless his heart. he's just not a top line player anymore.
i just hope murray doesn't trade for anyone over 30, i'm afraid of what he's planning.

but coming back to last night's game, we were outmatched, they are a faster team, with twice the talent up front. it was a slaughter. what can we expect?
i'm not so sure murray should make any moves to help us in the "now". rid us of our coming UFA's and a few other pieces and prepare us for the coming summer FA's

Shouldn't you be in Asia by now? Haha.

Number Twenty Nine

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Here's to hoping we miss the playoffs. A miss and deadline sell off is what this team needs right now. (and a new GM with a brass set)

stempniaksen

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I'd be interested in hearing what you mean when you say "GM with a brass set"

I can understand not liking his moves, but giving big money to Kovalev and Gonchar and making "somewhat" big trades like bringing in Cullen, Campoli and Sutton screams "brass set" to me.

Or would you rather we go back to the days of giving up 2nd rounders for Oleg Saprykin and Tyler Arnason?

Number Twenty Nine

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I think some of those names have less to do with Murray and more to do with Melnyk. Gene wants the *flash* to sell tickets..

Canoli is the only guy we have left from Murray's *gutsy* moves.....

PTFlea

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I thought it was telling in an interview this morning with Lehner when he said:

Bobby Butler can find holes in a goalie that most can't, the puck will go between your arms, over the shoulder, places goalies are sometimes not prepared. I know he's having some issues with his elbow right now, but he'll be back to sniping goals soon enough.

So that's probably the reason we haven't heard of a call up for Butler.

TheAvatar

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Number Twenty Nine wrote:I think some of those names have less to do with Murray and more to do with Melnyk. Gene wants the *flash* to sell tickets..

Canoli is the only guy we have left from Murray's *gutsy* moves.....


So basically, Murray can't win. If there's a move you "like", it's Melnyk making it and if the move didn't work out, we need a new GM ... Shrug

Riprock

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CockRoche wrote:
Dash wrote:From all accounts, isn't Bobby Butler the closest thing we have to a sniper that would be a perfect compliment to Spezza? Spezza's a guy that likes to control the puck and create space... and Butler seems like the kind of guy that thrives on getting open and set for a one timer, like Heatley. If the Sens have any hopes for him becoming a top line sniper, they might as well do it now. Give him that spot permanently even if he does nothing, you keep him there.

Come on Dash. You need to develop these kids properly, leave Butler in the AHL for this season and reevaluate at the start of the 2011 campaign.

Simply, if you bring up Butler now and keep him up just because, you are actually promoting him to become a one-dimensional hockey player. Keep him down, learn the game and all aspects of it. He also needs an offseason to start eating and lifting to for peeps sake.

Ok, that is a valid point. I guess I am opposed to the bringing in of veterans though that take a spot from a young player.

CockRoche

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Dash wrote:
CockRoche wrote:
Dash wrote:From all accounts, isn't Bobby Butler the closest thing we have to a sniper that would be a perfect compliment to Spezza? Spezza's a guy that likes to control the puck and create space... and Butler seems like the kind of guy that thrives on getting open and set for a one timer, like Heatley. If the Sens have any hopes for him becoming a top line sniper, they might as well do it now. Give him that spot permanently even if he does nothing, you keep him there.

Come on Dash. You need to develop these kids properly, leave Butler in the AHL for this season and reevaluate at the start of the 2011 campaign.

Simply, if you bring up Butler now and keep him up just because, you are actually promoting him to become a one-dimensional hockey player. Keep him down, learn the game and all aspects of it. He also needs an offseason to start eating and lifting to for peeps sake.

Ok, that is a valid point. I guess I am opposed to the bringing in of veterans though that take a spot from a young player.

I'm opposed to bringing in a veteran via trade for another valuable draft pick.

PTFlea

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Just the weight though CR and his 'brick wall' that he will hit at some point from the NCAA schedule. Someone said that he needed work away from the puck, but that's not accurate, the only thing missing is pro experience and body weight, his play away from the puck is quite good as he's a good backchecker with his speed.

I don't disagree though, he could use the full year in Bingo, I just figure we have little to lose if he's called up for 10 or so game to assess him in the NHL. Luke Adam got the call based on his awesome AHL stats, and Butler was right there with him - first year pro or not.

PTFlea

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CockRoche wrote:
I'm opposed to bringing in a veteran via trade for another valuable draft pick.

Oh yeah. Unless it's a relatively young player under contract, our picks had better be staying put.

SensGirl11

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We're such a joke right now, wow. I can't believe just how bad we are. I can't wait to see what happens over the weekend. This is getting ridiculous, either tank completely or blow 'er up. Something's got to give. It's mind-numbingly bad.

SensGirl11

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I think it's time for young EK to go back to Bingo too to be honest.

PTFlea

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SensGirl11 wrote:I think it's time for young EK to go back to Bingo too to be honest.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. His partner is defective right now, his confidence is affected no matter what anyone says, he's making poor decisions, he's getting pushed around. He needs his mojo back.

SensGirl11

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SensGirl11 wrote:I think it's time for young EK to go back to Bingo too to be honest.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. His partner is defective right now, his confidence is affected no matter what anyone says, he's making poor decisions, he's getting pushed around. He needs his mojo back.

Exactly, we need him to be at his best when he's up with the big boys. He's not right now and neither is anyone else on the team. Since we can send him back without anyone claiming him, I don't see how that can be a problem. He needs to get his Dung together. I have been less than impressed with him and the mistakes he's made lately. Again, I think the whole team sucks right now, but at least Karlsson is someone that can be saved from the Dung.

SensHulk

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I think you wait till Gonchar turns his game around before sending Karlsson down. Right now we don't have a commodity of good PMDs and to send one down to 'develop' or punish, we're not at that stage. Besides, there are worse d-men getting beat constantly than Karlsson (cough*Kuba*cough*cough*Carkner)

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