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GAME DAY: Toronto Maple Leafs @ Ottawa Senators – 7:30PM EST, Tuesday, March 16, 2010

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Toronto @ Ottawa, March 16, 2010

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:I don't blame Elliott on the Kessel goal nor do I blame him on the goal scored when the Leafs were crashing the crease. The only questionable goal was the short side bad angle shot that bet him top corner. You could definitely argue it was a perfect shot but it could also be argued that at that angle he should have that one.

I'm not talking about Elliott but there's my two cents on him for you if you want it.

I was at the game and I saw Gustafsson bobble the puck and give out plenty of second chances. The problem was the Sens could neither capitalize on gaping wide open net chances or the Leafs D were there. To say Gustafsson was only letting out second chances near the end of the game is absolutely false.

Gustafsson didn't keep them in the game early it was the Sens ineptitude that kept the Leafs in the game and Gustafsson without a goal against.

Also I don't expect either of them to be perfect but when pucks are sitting in front of wide open nets or juicey rebounds are flying out or the puck flies out of his glove on several occasions it's hardly a first star performance. Just because the Sens couldn't bury gift wrapped chances doesn't make Gustaffson a monster 1st star performer.

That short side glove shot is almost impossible to stop on a 2 on 1 down low because the goalie is forced to cheat a bit. Not to mention the lack of confidence both goalies have in their D right now which doesnt help the cheating over.

As for Gufstasson he made a huge save in Winchester when it was 1 nothing from in close, he kept everthing in front of him for the most part and sucked up almost every shot the first 2 periods. The 3rd he was kind of scrambly like a lot of guys get when there was a ton of pressure from a team that is getting chances in close, but again, he kept pretty much everything in front of him even when he bobbled the puck. Ill ask again, who was better then Gufstasson last night for the entire game? No one on The Sens for sure and it's debatable at best if Kessel was.

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N4L wrote:Im just sick of people basing thier opinions on nothing but hot air. Like "3 goals on 9 shots = fail". Moronic comment. Where is the "0 goals on 20 shots" late in the game comment? Not to mention he gets beat with 2 screens in front of him and one of the best wrist shots in the game from Kessel, then a mistake by Sutton where Mitchell roofs it.

Same with Gufstasson, the guy lets in 1 goal and people say "well, if The Sens burried their chances and open nets, and hit their spots they would have won" Well no shlt, if any team does that they win. Gufstasson made it tough on The Sens, looked big in the nets all night and played well. Again, I challenge people to find me 1 or 2 better players then Gufstasson last night.

My point is that Gustafsson was the cause of the open net chances and had zero to do with those chances missing the net.

So if a goalie lets out juicey rebounds and bobbles the puck all night and is horribly out of position but the opposition shoots the puck wide, hits a cross bar or shoots high then he should deserve a 1st star? Really is it that basic for you. If the puck doesn't go in the net then it must be an allstar performance for said goalie despite it having nothing to do with the goalie?

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Gufstasson was in position all night, at the end it got scrably for sure, but The Sens actually came on for a bit there. Most of the night, even the bobbled pucks he kept in front of him. He was making the first save and tracking the puck well. He didnt put anything into the slot (or the really dangerous areas), he played really well.

Was it an all star perfromance? No, it was a solid performance and last night he was the best player on the ice for most of the night. Just tell me who was better then Gufstasson with a good amount of certainty, pretty simple request. You dont need to put on an al star performance to be a good goaltender everynight, especially last night when it was an overall awful game.

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N4L wrote:Gufstasson was in position all night, at the end it got scrably for sure, but The Sens actually came on for a bit there. Most of the night, even the bobbled pucks he kept in front of him. He was making the first save and tracking the puck well. He didnt put anything into the slot (or the really dangerous areas), he played really well.

Was it an all star perfromance? No, it was a solid performance and last night he was the best player on the ice for most of the night. Just tell me who was better then Gufstasson with a good amount of certainty, pretty simple request. You dont need to put on an al star performance to be a good goaltender everynight, especially last night when it was an overall awful game.

I totally disagree with that first part. He was not in position all night. He was the reason for some wide open net chances that happened within the first 10 minutes of the game. He absolutely let out rebounds into dangerous areas and was out of position to make a second save had the Sens been able to either get to the puck or shoot it on net.


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Gufstasson was out challenging all night, nooo clue what you were watching. A big reason teams miss their chances is because the goaltender is maming himself look big, cutting off the angles, in short, he's in the other teams head.

Gufstason played a very solid, a very good game. The Sens basically has no chances in the 1st period except winchester so how you can say he was putting the rebounds out in the slot or The Sens missed there chances are beyond me. They didnt create anything until the 3rd when it was too late. Nothing sustained anyways.

Like I said, in a boring game where The Sens were awful, The Leafs were better, Gufstasson was the best player on the ice. If you disagree with that tell me who had a better game then he did.

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N4L wrote:Gufstasson was out challenging all night, nooo clue what you were watching. A big reason teams miss their chances is because the goaltender is maming himself look big, cutting off the angles, in short, he's in the other teams head.

Gufstason played a very solid, a very good game. The Sens basically has no chances in the 1st period except winchester so how you can say he was putting the rebounds out in the slot or The Sens missed there chances are beyond me. They didnt create anything until the 3rd when it was too late. Nothing sustained anyways.

Like I said, in a boring game where The Sens were awful, The Leafs were better, Gufstasson was the best player on the ice. If you disagree with that tell me who had a better game then he did.

Clearly we were both not watching the same game because I saw a few wide open nets that the Sens missed and it all happened as a result of Gustaffson's play and didn't result in a goal because of Sens player ineptitude. This all happened in the 1st period. Are you sure you watched the entire game?


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My opinion-Gufstason played well, but is he the reason we lost?-hardly.

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111519 wrote:My opinion-Gufstason played well, but is he the reason we lost?-hardly.

Pretty much, yeah. We've been doing this for the last 8 games or whatever. No offensive pressure at all - and when we get some, we miss. It's frustrating as Dung.

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All I asked was who was better then Gufstasson last night? There was def no Sen that was. It's a pretty simple question. What player warrented a 1st star selection over Gufstasson, that's what this whole conversation is about.

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N4L wrote:All I asked was who was better then Gufstasson last night? There was def no Sen that was. It's a pretty simple question. What player warrented a 1st star selection over Gufstasson, that's what this whole conversation is about.

I wouldn't have given Gustafsson a star at all.

I would have done this.

1st star - Kessel
2nd star - Gunnarson (no not Gustafsson)
3rd star - Grabovski


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I also thought Stalberg, Bozak and even Caputi had solid enough games to be put ahead of the play of Gustafsson.


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You did only ask for one player but I thought I'd provide you with 6.


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Stalberg? WTF, he was basically invisable the entire night. He had a good shift or two. Caputi had one good chance. Bozak, maybe, but he didnt do anything all that spectacular either. I think you are grasping for strwas because that was one of the worst games of hockey I have seen in a while, boring to say the very least. There wasnt any player that stood out beside Gufstasson, maybe Kessle.

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N4L wrote:Stalberg? WTF, he was basically invisable the entire night. He had a good shift or two. Caputi had one good chance. Bozak, maybe, but he didnt do anything all that spectacular either. I think you are grasping for strwas because that was one of the worst games of hockey I have seen in a while, boring to say the very least. There wasnt any player that stood out beside Gufstasson, maybe Kessle.

I won't argue Gufstasson as the 1st star but in a game as brutal as that it isn't hard to positively 'stand-out'. It's like being the best player in an Edmonton/NYI game.

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[quote="Cap'n Clutch"]You did only ask for one player but I thought I'd provide you with 6.[/quote

Yup, you provided me with 6 names. Kessle being the only one who you could actually make an arguement for. That was kind of sad considering 2 of the 6 guys were invisable... again, grasping at straws there.

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M_Christopher wrote:
N4L wrote:Stalberg? WTF, he was basically invisable the entire night. He had a good shift or two. Caputi had one good chance. Bozak, maybe, but he didnt do anything all that spectacular either. I think you are grasping for strwas because that was one of the worst games of hockey I have seen in a while, boring to say the very least. There wasnt any player that stood out beside Gufstasson, maybe Kessle.

I won't argue Gufstasson as the 1st star but in a game as brutal as that it isn't hard to positively 'stand-out'. It's like being the best player in an Edmonton/NYI game.

I dont disagree, the game was awful to watch and The Monster was the best of the worst. Nothing to write home about but he was the best player for either team last night.

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N4L wrote:Stalberg? WTF, he was basically invisable the entire night. He had a good shift or two. Caputi had one good chance. Bozak, maybe, but he didnt do anything all that spectacular either. I think you are grasping for strwas because that was one of the worst games of hockey I have seen in a while, boring to say the very least. There wasnt any player that stood out beside Gufstasson, maybe Kessle.

Bozak played well all night and set up Kessel's goal. Those two absolutely were better than the Monster.

There's no point in debating with you because you think the Sens only applied pressure for a brief time in the third when the Leafs out shot them 17-8. I totally disagree with your premise that Gustaffson had a good night and in fact contend that he played poorly and was fortunate on the score sheet.

In this case the 4-1 score in no way reflects on just how Gustaffson played.


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N4L wrote:All I asked was who was better then Gufstasson last night? There was def no Sen that was. It's a pretty simple question. What player warrented a 1st star selection over Gufstasson, that's what this whole conversation is about.

Kessel is quite the player, probably him. Every time he touched the puck I felt as if our somewhat immobile D was gonna back off so much he'd have a clear shot. Perhaps by default it would be Gustafsson, but I've blocked out most of that game and can't recall who on the Leafs was really good.

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