GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Wed. Dec. 23rd, 2009

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:might try to score some tix to the Igloo, but jebus how expensive they are compared to SBP.

$50 standing room only. Waiting list for seasons tickets - this is how you run a franchise my friends....

Not sure the - old falling apart building, almost sold the franchise, win a draft lottery for a Sydney Crosby business model is something all teams can do successfully but hey lets give it a try.

New rink coming online soon is already sold out for Season's tickets. I think you forget Ottawa almost toasted early in the franchise history.....

I don't like the Pens, or crying Crosby either, but it's hard not to be impressed by their success. They've won the cup 3X in Ottawa Senators 2.0 history

Number Twenty Nine wrote:
New rink coming online soon is already sold out for Season's tickets. I think you forget Ottawa almost toasted early in the franchise history.....

I don't like the Pens, or crying Crosby either, but it's hard not to be impressed by their success. They've won the cup 3X in Ottawa Senators 2.0 history

I'm impressed for sure, but it certainly has a lot to do with the lottery ball bouncing their way to Crosby and then ALMOST to Ovechkin as well. Unfortunately for the Pens they didn't get Ovechkin and had to settle with Malkin. They must be sooooooooooo mad about that.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:
New rink coming online soon is already sold out for Season's tickets. I think you forget Ottawa almost toasted early in the franchise history.....

I don't like the Pens, or crying Crosby either, but it's hard not to be impressed by their success. They've won the cup 3X in Ottawa Senators 2.0 history

I'm impressed for sure, but it certainly has a lot to do with the lottery ball bouncing their way to Crosby and then ALMOST to Ovechkin as well. Unfortunately for the Pens they didn't get Ovechkin and had to settle with Malkin. They must be sooooooooooo mad about that.

They got Malkin before drafting Crosby. Anyway, I'm sure they'll manage with a two-time NHL first-all-star/Conn Smythe/Calder/Art Ross/Cup winner. It's true that they would have had consecutive first over-all picks had Washington not won the lottery, though. But then they lucked out in '05.

2003 - 1st overall
2004 - 2nd overall
2005 - 1st overall
2006 - 2nd overall

Biggest BS in sports history.

Let's not forget that we got Yashin (2nd over-all), Daigle (1st over-all), Bonk (3rd over-all), Berard (1st over-all) Phillips (1st over-all) in consecutive drafts.

So we've had the same situation (albeit it can't really be called a strategy given the team was just starting out), it just didn't really work out for us.

asq2 wrote:Let's not forget that we got Yashin (2nd over-all), Daigle (1st over-all), Bonk (3rd over-all), Berard (1st over-all) Phillips (1st over-all) in consecutive drafts.

So we've had the same situation (albeit it can't really be called a strategy given the team was just starting out), it just didn't really work out for us.

With no offense to the guys running the Sens at that time...they should NEVER has been in charge of drafting back then. Boy...imagine if we had a real GM with a real scouting staff? If we didn't still have Pronger, I'm sure we'd have gotten some really special pieces for him instead of the jack Dung we got for Daigle. Yashin's a good pick, Bonk's a f-ing disaster at 3rd overall, Berard an f-ing disaster at 1st overall and frankly, Redden's not 1st overall caliber either. Phillips is an f-ing disaster at 1st in 96, but the pickings were rather slim.

Perhaps I'm just trying to say that we got the 1st and 2nd and 3rd overalls 10 years too soon for it to make the stunning impact it has in Pittsburgh and even Washington and Anaheim.

Boo hoo hoo.

God...now I want to curl up in a small ball and cry myself to sleep.

Going to the game tonight - scored some last minutes tickets - woo hoo....

Funny I never went to a Sens game in the 8 years I lived in the Seaway valley....

Go Sens Go

Donovan is IN for Campoli!

Lines for tonight:

Michalek - Regin - Alfredsson
Ruutu - Kelly - Neil
Cheechoo - Fisher - Kovalev
Donovan - Winchester - Shannon

Leclaire starts in goal.

GO SENS GO!!!

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:Let's not forget that we got Yashin (2nd over-all), Daigle (1st over-all), Bonk (3rd over-all), Berard (1st over-all) Phillips (1st over-all) in consecutive drafts.

So we've had the same situation (albeit it can't really be called a strategy given the team was just starting out), it just didn't really work out for us.

With no offense to the guys running the Sens at that time...they should NEVER has been in charge of drafting back then. Boy...imagine if we had a real GM with a real scouting staff? If we didn't still have Pronger, I'm sure we'd have gotten some really special pieces for him instead of the jack Dung we got for Daigle. Yashin's a good pick, Bonk's a f-ing disaster at 3rd overall, Berard an f-ing disaster at 1st overall and frankly, Redden's not 1st overall caliber either. Phillips is an f-ing disaster at 1st in 96, but the pickings were rather slim.

Perhaps I'm just trying to say that we got the 1st and 2nd and 3rd overalls 10 years too soon for it to make the stunning impact it has in Pittsburgh and even Washington and Anaheim.

Boo hoo hoo.

I don't see who we really should have taken over Yashin in '92. He was a very good player, personality aside. Everyone and their mother would have taken Daigle in '93. It's definitely not the scouting staff's fault he busted. Bonk in '94 wasn't great, but neither was that draft. We ended up getting the best player out of it in the sixth round, though.

Berard's another pick I can live with - a 6'2" defenceman putting up well over a PPG in the OHL. Redden turned out to be excellent for most of his career, too. Maybe that's one instance where you would have liked an Iginla or Doan, but I'm happier with Redden than I would have been with the immediately following players (Berg, Kilger, Langkow, Kelly).

1996 was a terrible draft, which isn't the scouts' fault. Go through the list of other good players and there are very few I'd take over Phillips. Maybe Briere at 24, Chara at 56, Kaberle at 204. But these later picks that turn out to be booms are usually just luck of the draw, I think.

So, it's just our luck that the drafts didn't boast players the calibre of Crosbys, Malkins or Ovechkins (and 90% of drafts probably don't, frankly, as these are generational players). But let's not act like we didn't tank either.

shabbs wrote:Donovan is IN for Campoli!

Lines for tonight:

Michalek - Regin - Alfredsson
Ruutu - Kelly - Neil
Cheechoo - Fisher - Kovalev
Donovan - Winchester - Shannon

Leclaire starts in goal.

Donovan in!!?!? That's awesome. New lineup tonight - very exciting.

shabbs wrote:Donovan is IN for Campoli!

Lines for tonight:

Michalek - Regin - Alfredsson
Ruutu - Kelly - Neil
Cheechoo - Fisher - Kovalev
Donovan - Winchester - Shannon

Leclaire starts in goal.

Wow. Winchester drops back to the 4th line eh? Booboo got his wish, sorta.

asq2 wrote:
So, it's just our luck that the drafts didn't boast players the calibre of Crosbys, Malkins or Ovechkins (and 90% of drafts probably don't, frankly, as these are generational players). But let's not act like we didn't tank either.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Wow. Winchester drops back to the 4th line eh? Booboo got his wish, sorta.

Fisher on line 3? I doubt this is the way it all works out.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Wow. Winchester drops back to the 4th line eh? Booboo got his wish, sorta.

Fisher on line 3? I doubt this is the way it all works out.

Probably not. That's just a mistake in the order. But it's pretty clear which line has Donovan and Shannon on the wings. No mistake there.

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:
So, it's just our luck that the drafts didn't boast players the calibre of Crosbys, Malkins or Ovechkins (and 90% of drafts probably don't, frankly, as these are generational players). But let's not act like we didn't tank either.

The good news is it's not necessarily necessary. Tampa and Carolina, for example, won with deep teams with a number of very good players, but not generational talents.

I'd say if our back end (Lehner, Karlsson, Cowen, Wiercioch specifically) develops as it can and we find a way to add some top-notch offensive players, we'll be in very good shape. I know Murray shot it down, but I can't help feeling that the addition of Filatov would be great for the organization.

When will the Filatov deal be announced?