Team Canada Roster Debate

IIHF Eligibility

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Dash wrote:
then the "young guys"
Rick Nash
Mike Richards
Jeff Carter
Ryan Getzlaf
Eric Staal
Sidney Crosby
Jonathan Toews
Shea Weber
Dion Phaneuf
Brent Burns
Mike Green
Duncan Keith
Brent Seabrooke
Drew Doughty
Jay Bouwmeester
Marc-Andre Fleury
Cam Ward
Steve Mason

Dash wrote:No problem. It's good to know for the next time.

Going back to the roster debate, the real decisions right now, basically player A vs. B.

Like, who would you take:

M. Richards or Thornton?
Toews or Lecavalier?
Fisher or M. Richards?

SensGirl11 wrote:Am I the only one that is going to have a very hard time cheering for the team? I can't cheer for any team with Heatley on it, the wound is still way too fresh. It will be very hard for me. I know you're not supposed to cheer for players and all, but still.

SDH89 wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Am I the only one that is going to have a very hard time cheering for the team? I can't cheer for any team with Heatley on it, the wound is still way too fresh. It will be very hard for me. I know you're not supposed to cheer for players and all, but still.

Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. It makes me sick to think I'll be rooting for Heatley and Crosby .... oh well, I'll just remind myself about the big red maple leaf on the front of the jersey.

Jordo wrote:

asq2 wrote:No Doughty?

Not for me, in my opinion it's more a factor of you leave out in favour of him. He can ride the taxi, but let's be honest- each one of my top 6 Dmen are far more capable than Doughty. Plus, he'll have his time for Olympics- he's very young and I'm not sure World Jr. experience can translate to Olympics.

Except in Toews case. I can't think of a higher pressure situation than that shootout vs. USA when he really came through. That was one of my favourite team canada moments of all time.

Gohan wrote:
I like it. Only a few points of contention: I really don't see how they can leave either Richards off the team...I like your 3rd line, but I'm thinking Marleau gets the shaft and that means the non-Crosby/non-4th lines will get shuffled. Also, I wouldn't give Doan the nod. It's gotta be Mike Richards as the 4th line center. I don't care what he's done this year, he's had that spot labelled for two years. Fisher can move to the wing or Smyth (if healthy) can fill that last spot. As I think the taxi squad will be young guys, I doubt Lecavalier is in there anywhere. I'd imagine Toews or Stamkos would be taxi.

On D, Weber is 1A. There's no 3rd pairing there....Pronger will be lucky to see the 3rd pairing. I think he'll be there on reputation, not on merit. And I still can't see Green getting left off, just based on his numbers...He has more points than anyone on your 4th line It could happen, but I wouldn't bet on it. Seems like Seabrook might get the bump to the taxi squad or scratchzi squad. I'm betting on Doughty being a cab driver.

Can't argue with the goaltending.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Gohan wrote:
I like it. Only a few points of contention: I really don't see how they can leave either Richards off the team...I like your 3rd line, but I'm thinking Marleau gets the shaft and that means the non-Crosby/non-4th lines will get shuffled. Also, I wouldn't give Doan the nod. It's gotta be Mike Richards as the 4th line center. I don't care what he's done this year, he's had that spot labelled for two years. Fisher can move to the wing or Smyth (if healthy) can fill that last spot. As I think the taxi squad will be young guys, I doubt Lecavalier is in there anywhere. I'd imagine Toews or Stamkos would be taxi.

On D, Weber is 1A. There's no 3rd pairing there....Pronger will be lucky to see the 3rd pairing. I think he'll be there on reputation, not on merit. And I still can't see Green getting left off, just based on his numbers...He has more points than anyone on your 4th line It could happen, but I wouldn't bet on it. Seems like Seabrook might get the bump to the taxi squad or scratchzi squad. I'm betting on Doughty being a cab driver.

Can't argue with the goaltending.

All good points. I think Pronger will be logging 25+ minutes a game. He's been bad recently, but this is one of the great ones - especially when he has a future HOF F-man in Neidermayer with him.

I think Seabrook might get left off as well, but that chemistry thing is such a big deal in a short tourney. There's nothing better than having a hypothetical top 4 of Neidermayer/Pronger and Keith/Seabrook. Granted there's not a ton of familiarity with the Neider/Prong because they usually aren't paired together, but they have some for sure.

And yeah, Mike Richards should probably be on the team, but I wouldn't take Doan out to put him in personally, I'd replace Mike Fisher and put him on the taxi squad. I'd sacrifice someone to make sure he was at least there if I needed him, but I'd play Richards over him - perhaps.

SpezDispenser wrote:

All good points. I think Pronger will be logging 25+ minutes a game. He's been bad recently, but this is one of the great ones - especially when he has a future HOF F-man in Neidermayer with him.

I think Seabrook might get left off as well, but that chemistry thing is such a big deal in a short tourney. There's nothing better than having a hypothetical top 4 of Neidermayer/Pronger and Keith/Seabrook. Granted there's not a ton of familiarity with the Neider/Prong because they usually aren't paired together, but they have some for sure.

And yeah, Mike Richards should probably be on the team, but I wouldn't take Doan out to put him in personally, I'd replace Mike Fisher and put him on the taxi squad. I'd sacrifice someone to make sure he was at least there if I needed him, but I'd play Richards over him - perhaps.