GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Tampa Bay Lightning - 7:00pm ET - Thu. Oct. 29th, 2009

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:Bring up Derek Smith to play the blueline or bring up Karlsson. I dont think there is a worse D man in the NHL then when Brian Lee plays.

I'm trying really hard to bite my lip here, but weren't you saying he would be a solid bottom pairing guy during camp?

I said he could be but he has to do a lot. Ive posted what I said already twice for you. He has done nothing and in fact might hae digressed.

Eerything he needed to do to even be considered an NHL d man is just apparently a bunch of people talking at him.

I certainly don't remember you twice telling me specifically. What I do remember is you saying he was solid during camp (when paired with Carkner I believe), and saying that he would be a solid bottom pairing guy if he'd take the body more and be more of a stay at home type. The point is that while you were somewhat positive about Lee at that point, after one game now, you are back to negative, actually calling him the worst D-man in the league. That's a pretty wide gap.

Because I actually gave him too much credit. He doesnt get it and just depends on his skating to get by. Might as well sign Kurt Browning.

Fact of the matter is he has looked good with really good D men, and I he looked decent with Cowen, but again, that was pre season. Lee is not an NHL D man at this point and I question if he ever really will be at this point.

He just doesnt have a clue out there. It's not like this kid is 5'10, 175 lbs. He's 6'2, 6'3, 210 lbs. It's becoming pathetic waiting for this guy to actually crack Ottawa. Karlsson is head and shoulders better then him and from what I saw at camp, so was Derek Smith.

Again, 1 good game with a top of the line D man in Cowen and thats it.

wprager wrote:I'm not happy they are losing, but let's face it -- we are a middle-of-the-pack team, missing Spezza and A-Train, I'll bet a few more players are affected by the flu, tired after last night -- I can rationalize losing. We are not going anywhere this year. We'll still make the playoffs because other teams in our division and our conference are even worse, but we are not going to steam roll over everyone on a consistent basis.

Certainly not, and our schedule so far hasn't exactly been littered with top teams. Wait until we have to start playing the West and teams like Philly, Pittsburgh and Washington. I would def. agree with the assessment that we are a middle of the pack team, who will make the playoffs but won't make much noise.

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:Bring up Derek Smith to play the blueline or bring up Karlsson. I dont think there is a worse D man in the NHL then when Brian Lee plays.

I'm trying really hard to bite my lip here, but weren't you saying he would be a solid bottom pairing guy during camp?

I said he could be but he has to do a lot. Ive posted what I said already twice for you. He has done nothing and in fact might hae digressed.

Eerything he needed to do to even be considered an NHL d man is just apparently a bunch of people talking at him.

I certainly don't remember you twice telling me specifically. What I do remember is you saying he was solid during camp (when paired with Carkner I believe), and saying that he would be a solid bottom pairing guy if he'd take the body more and be more of a stay at home type. The point is that while you were somewhat positive about Lee at that point, after one game now, you are back to negative, actually calling him the worst D-man in the league. That's a pretty wide gap.

Because I actually gave him too much credit. He doesnt get it and just depends on his skating to get by. Might as well sign Kurt Browning.

Fact of the matter is he has looked good with really good D men, and I he looked decent with Cowen, but again, that was pre season. Lee is not an NHL D man at this point and I question if he ever really will be at this point.

He just doesnt have a clue out there. It's not like this kid is 5'10, 175 lbs. He's 6'2, 6'3, 210 lbs. It's becoming pathetic waiting for this guy to actually crack Ottawa. Karlsson is head and shoulders better then him and from what I saw at camp, so was Derek Smith.

Again, 1 good game with a top of the line D man in Cowen and thats it.

You're right is was Cowen now that you mention it.

If Steve Downie isn't the biggest faggot Front Bum in the entire Diddling league, then I don't know who is.

Awesome, Lee brought Ruutu's helmet to the bench, that's the only note worthy thing he did all night.

N4L wrote:Awesome, Lee brought Ruutu's helmet to the bench, that's the only note worthy thing he did all night.

Not to justify his play tonight, but he did have an assist on a goal there.

Anyone can get a 2nd assit. Lee was the worst player on the ice tonight and that's saying a lot. He might be the only guy who doesnt have the frigging flu.

Hopefully people are not jumping off a bulding for this one. This was a game that was set up for Ottawa to lose.

Number 1 center went down, number 1 goalie is out, and top pairing D man is out. Mix all that in with the flu going around the team and a pissed off Tampa team... The game was basically ment for The Sens to lose.

They get Atlanta on Sat afternoon without Kovulchuk at home, that should put them back on track.

Damsn that was awful, we desperately needed Spezza entering the zone tonight. I started watching in the second period and I didn't see a shot on goal for like 15 minutes .

Whatever, 4th line was good, again. Defense was awful, was looking for the puck all night.
With all the circumstances already mentionned by everybody, I can forgive this.

marakh wrote:Damsn that was awful, we desperately needed Spezza entering the zone tonight. I started watching in the second period and I didn't see a shot on goal for like 15 minutes .

Whatever, 4th line was good, again. Defense was awful, was looking for the puck all night.
With all the circumstances already mentionned by everybody, I can forgive this.

There might be merit to these Campbell rumors I think. Especially if they can move a contract like Cheechoo's the other way coupled with one of the excess forwards/defensemen we have.

This squad is one top pairing defenseman away from doing some serious damage in the Eastern conference.

I missed the game, what the hell happened to Spezza and the rest of the team?

N4L wrote:

PKC wrote:

Cronie wrote:news flash boys... WE SUCK!! When TB spanks you...there's something SERIOUSLY wrong...

I'm so disgusted right now.

This is a joke. This is exactly why I don't like Sens fans probably...the sky starts falling in for them SO quickly it's ridiculous.

Second half of a back to back with Leclaire, Spezza and Volchenkov on the shelf while the Tampa Bay are sitting around with a 3-0-2 record at home with more than enough days for rest.

Get a clue guys.

Relax, I posted just before you, relaaaax.

If you wanna trash Lee, Im all aboard though.

have to agree... lee was terrible. on two of those goals he just stood in front of the net like a deer caught in the lights.
not what you want to see on his first night being called up. send him back? yes me think so... who's next on down the latter appart from karlsson?

i did like regin's play though... man is he NHL ready. lots of good plays and he positioned himself quite well. even managed to sneak up on opposing players to steal the puck. i like.

kovy was looking slightly better... but that's not saying much.
you could certainly feel the absence of spezza tonight. heal fast my man.

Campbell would make this Sens team unreal IMO. Ive been saying this for a while. If you can off load campoli (who would replace Campbell in Chicago and is off the books next year) Cheechoo, while A Train is on the LTR for Campbell and Beech, you're team is better for the very near future.

Gives Karlsson a lot more time as well.

PKC wrote:

marakh wrote:Damsn that was awful, we desperately needed Spezza entering the zone tonight. I started watching in the second period and I didn't see a shot on goal for like 15 minutes .

Whatever, 4th line was good, again. Defense was awful, was looking for the puck all night.
With all the circumstances already mentionned by everybody, I can forgive this.

There might be merit to these Campbell rumors I think. Especially if they can move a contract like Cheechoo's the other way coupled with one of the excess forwards/defensemen we have.

This squad is one top pairing defenseman away from doing some serious damage in the Eastern conference.

i'm still hoping cheechoo could come around. but cambell and beech for cheechoo, Lee and shannon?
i rather keep kelly at this point. he looked alright tonight plus with him and mickaleck we have one of the top PK in the league.

Flo The Action wrote:

N4L wrote:

PKC wrote:

Cronie wrote:news flash boys... WE SUCK!! When TB spanks you...there's something SERIOUSLY wrong...

I'm so disgusted right now.

This is a joke. This is exactly why I don't like Sens fans probably...the sky starts falling in for them SO quickly it's ridiculous.

Second half of a back to back with Leclaire, Spezza and Volchenkov on the shelf while the Tampa Bay are sitting around with a 3-0-2 record at home with more than enough days for rest.

Get a clue guys.

Relax, I posted just before you, relaaaax.

If you wanna trash Lee, Im all aboard though.

have to agree... lee was terrible. on two of those goals he just stood in front of the net like a deer caught in the lights.
not what you want to see on his first night being called up. send him back? yes me think so... who's next on down the latter appart from karlsson?

i did like regin's play though... man is he NHL ready. lots of good plays and he positioned himself quite well. even managed to sneak up on opposing players to steal the puck. i like.

kovy was looking slightly better... but that's not saying much.
you could certainly feel the absence of spezza tonight. heal fast my man.

Derek Smith who is out scoring Lee in Bingo, has a better plus/minus, and is much more of an offensive threat.

Watch some pre season a little more carefully dude, because he was fairly impressive for the most part when he was in the lineup. Def a guy to keep an eye on and should get a shot. Hope that answers your question.

Flo The Action wrote:

PKC wrote:

marakh wrote:Damsn that was awful, we desperately needed Spezza entering the zone tonight. I started watching in the second period and I didn't see a shot on goal for like 15 minutes .

Whatever, 4th line was good, again. Defense was awful, was looking for the puck all night.
With all the circumstances already mentionned by everybody, I can forgive this.

There might be merit to these Campbell rumors I think. Especially if they can move a contract like Cheechoo's the other way coupled with one of the excess forwards/defensemen we have.

This squad is one top pairing defenseman away from doing some serious damage in the Eastern conference.

i'm still hoping cheechoo could come around. but cambell and beech for cheechoo, Lee and shannon?
i rather keep kelly at this point. he looked alright tonight plus with him and mickaleck we have one of the top PK in the league.

Kelly is way too valuable to The Sens to trade. DOnt care what hes making playing on the 4th line. You can plus him anywhere, plays the PK, its pretty obvious now and should be to most people.

Nice catch by you.

You are gonna have to give up Picard or Campoli, prob Campoli with the way Chicago is made up, they will need a guy who can step in and play a similar role to Campbell. Im absolutely all for getting Campbell because that's exactly what we need.

Murray should wait for Campoli to make a few games scoring streaks, then call Hawks management. Cheechoo has to go though. That's an imperative condition for us to take that contract.

On another note, Kuba has started to shoot more. Like it.

N4L wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

N4L wrote:

PKC wrote:

Cronie wrote:news flash boys... WE SUCK!! When TB spanks you...there's something SERIOUSLY wrong...

I'm so disgusted right now.

This is a joke. This is exactly why I don't like Sens fans probably...the sky starts falling in for them SO quickly it's ridiculous.

Second half of a back to back with Leclaire, Spezza and Volchenkov on the shelf while the Tampa Bay are sitting around with a 3-0-2 record at home with more than enough days for rest.

Get a clue guys.

Relax, I posted just before you, relaaaax.

If you wanna trash Lee, Im all aboard though.

have to agree... lee was terrible. on two of those goals he just stood in front of the net like a deer caught in the lights.
not what you want to see on his first night being called up. send him back? yes me think so... who's next on down the latter appart from karlsson?

i did like regin's play though... man is he NHL ready. lots of good plays and he positioned himself quite well. even managed to sneak up on opposing players to steal the puck. i like.

kovy was looking slightly better... but that's not saying much.
you could certainly feel the absence of spezza tonight. heal fast my man.

Derek Smith who is out scoring Lee in Bingo, has a better plus/minus, and is much more of an offensive threat.

Watch some pre season a little more carefully dude, because he was fairly impressive for the most part when he was in the lineup. Def a guy to keep an eye on and should get a shot. Hope that answers your question.

i wish i could of watched more pre-season games but from montreal i think i caught 2 max. why don't they get picked up for TV? don't know but i wish they did.

i still think campoli should stay and i'd rather would see picard go. i agree they'd probably want campoli. i was just trying to say that we could flip them "the extra".

i'm not on the "negative cheechoo" bandwagon yet, but i have to admit that i'm more then ready to see him net one. as for kelly i might have called his name in the past to be traded but there is such a high value to having the number 1 PK in the league that it's underestimated when your lacking in the offencive departement. those 2-1, 3-2 games will often be due to the PK. anyway salary wise we don't look so bad at the moment.
now let's go thrash Atlanta!!!