GAME DAY: Nashville Predators @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - Thu. Oct. 22nd, 2009

RobbyJ wrote:We played like crap, gave up 3PP goals I think, made stupid mistakes all night, yet still got as many points tonight as leaves have gotten all year.

cloverleaf wrote:If you call carkner, you have to call that pick.
Carkner was horrible though and was a minus 4.
Fisher also had a good game.

N4L wrote:The good.

Leclaire. Let in 6 but none were on him. He is the only reason that game wasnt a total blow out.

Spezza, AMAZING. Even in the 1st he was making defensive plays and really competing. Tried to do a little too much at times but in the 3rd he took over. Great game.

Phillips and A Train. Dominate again.

Regin. Looked good his first game back.

Campoli. Best game yet, something to build on.

The Bad.

Picard. Perhaps the single worst game I have ever seen from a defenseman, ever. He was that bad. He single handedly cost his team 3 goals. A little bad luck but he was aweful. He didnt see the ice in the 3rd. Hopefully he can bounce back but WOW.

Shannon. Why did Donovan come out? Shannon is useless and was taken off that top PP unit for Karlsson by the end of the game. He's been garbage all year and he didnt do anything to change that tonight.

Cheechoo. Uhhh, he played? Awful.

Carkner. Doesnt help that his partner was the worst player in the NHL tonight and perhaps the AHL, but he has to be better.

mickbud wrote:

sidstu wrote:he dove, check the reply--he cut in and he lost the puck--he the chance to dump the puck in the corner and he didn't and b/c of the turnover high on the blueline it costed the sens the overtime

the reply doesn't lie--i saw it at least 10 times before i decided to say something

don't get me wrong i like fisher but he know better===in regards to sitting him i know he won't get benched and he shouldn't--its a figure of speech but he needs a blast from the coach--thats bs what he did

I'm not sure I understand what play you are talking about??? He never cut in at the opposing blue line, the puck never got out of the zone at the end

wprager wrote:Yeah, Shannon in ahead of Donovan had all of us scratching our heads before the puck dropped. Checked out a few other sites and that was the universal feeling across the blogosphere.

rooneypoo wrote:

N4L wrote:

Ya, I was gonna say that about Cheechoo and Shannon. When it comes down to it Shannon can do no wrong and it looks like Cheechoo is a guy that can do no right... too bad too because Cheechoo was getting the chances and playing well.

If they lose on Saturday nigth with Cheechoo out and Shannon in... that's going to be on Clouston. I 100% put tonights game on Clouston's shoulders. He broke the first rule of any team, you dont mess with success and you dont fix what's not broken... he did.

Don't know if that's fair, either. How pissed would you (and 20 others) have been if Clouston announced that Regin was ready to go but he didn't want to mess with chemistry so he was sitting him? I'm pretty sure I saw you earlier in this thread, before the game started, saying that Regin draws back in for sure. I think it's one of those scenarios were Clouston was screwed either way.

Anyway, I'd say sit Shannon over Cheechoo (and I'm a Shannon booster), if only because you have more invested in terms of having to get Cheechoo going. We've got him at $3 mil for this year and the next, and you don't want that turning into anymore of an anchor than it already is. He might never do anything for us if we mishandle him -- and I don't think he's done anything so bad as to warrant a benching. He's busting his butt off every shift; the chances are there.

SensFan71 wrote:yeah okay last night before the 3rd period was pretty horrible, yes ,we are all looking at you Picard, the accident tip to the net, that could have been forgiven, but the blatant mispass that lead to the 3rd goal, that one stings, hope you can put it past you and move on because Campoli scoring is good for his case of staying in the lineup when Kuba returns. Thanks to Leclaire for the point, tough break on the penalty to Carkner in OT, but Prags said yesterday the refs would have a hand in determining the outcome. Build off that massive 3rd period and decimate the Bruins on Saturday. There will be no 4 day layoff to get the rust off to deal with. How many of you members that were at the game were leaving the arena when Phillips scored? Man that was exciting, almost scared the Dung of my wife who was sleeping at the time, I never yelled/screamed so loud over an Ottawa game in a long time.

N4L wrote:Shannon doesnt have a point this year... when did he score? Shannon doesnt move the puck very well at all and Karlsson proved last night, aganst Tampa, and against MTL he is 100% the better option back on the point.

Shannon has had as much PP time as anyone on that team beside Spezza and Alfi and doesnt have a single point to show for it... WTF is with people and this guy. He's cute out there, that's about it, he brings nothing to this current Sens team. He isnt good enough to play on those top 3 lines, Regin took the spot they had planned for him (3rd line center) and now CLouston is trying to scramble to get him in the lineup.

Taking Donovan out last night was a mistake from the begining and just about everyone in and around The Sens said as much. You can make a point to take oiut two guys, Cheechoo and Shannon and for most of the year Cheechoo has easily been the better player.

I'll said it again, Shannon does not deserve to be in a healthy Sens lineup and Clouston is somehow finding a way to do it.

sidstu wrote:mickbud--check the reply man--he turned the puck over high at the blueline--i can't believe you don't know what play i'm referring to

i like fisher so its not a big deal --i'm just saying he knoes better

N4L wrote:Shannon also has 4 shots in 5 games played... for a guy getting that much time on the PP and time on the ice in general, that's garbage. Cheechoo had that in 1 game.

There is enoguh depth in Ottawa that they do not need Shannon unless injuries occure. He is actually the most useless forward to The Sens right now and probably their team in general.

Too small to be a 4th line player, not good enough to play on the top line, and there are better players all around him. Seriously, besides a 20 games stretch last year during a crappy season where he and about 2 other things were little bright spots, what has he done?

He earned his one way deal last year, great, he doesnt deserve to be in that lineup. He brings nothing. No scoring, no energy, nothing.

shabbs wrote:They better be ready for Boston on Saturday... cuz that kind of humpy bumpy is gonna get us slaughtered.

shabbs wrote:I'll get started on the GDT... so Prags doesn't have a fit...

ddt wrote:

asq2 wrote:Refs tend to give teams a little more breathing room as the game grows in intensity. These two were over-reffing IMO.

That's McDreary for you. He always has to try and be the show. The sooner he realizes fans are not there to see him the better.

N4L wrote:Umm, what did Shannon do? He has looked awful EVERY game this year. Starting to worry a bit about Clouston starting to play favorites... Shannon is getting way too many chances right now. If he is on the point on that 1st PP unit Sat night instead of Karlsson, I actually might lose it. IT DOESNT WORK. Shannon is no threat from back there and does a crappy job running that PP.

Vandelay wrote:

N4L wrote:What was the score last time they played us at home... They wont get 5 goals from their D every night so that was a rarity we saw. Weber is the man though, best Canadian D man on the planet.

Yeah, Suter's no slouch either!

SensGirl11 wrote:

sidstu wrote:i have to say that i'm impressed so far on how the sens are playing--opposing teams need to work in order to win and also most admit that they are playing better than i thought they could

however, i'd bench fisher for a period next game--i really like fisher but he played greedy and it costed the sens the overtime--he is at the opposing blue line--they are short hand and instead of him just dimbing it in the corner he tries to burn the defenceman --what happens--he loses the puck they come down and bang the game is over--thats selfish hockey and fisher knows better

It was a 4 on 3 at that time he dove to try to get the puck out and it unfortunately hit the defenseman. I wouldn't say he was being greedy there at all, he was trying to save the team from being scored on. He did the best he could to get the puck out, it was an unfortunate bounce. Fisher has been amazing this season, there is no chance in hell he'd get benched.