GAME DAY: Nashville Predators @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - Thu. Oct. 22nd, 2009

beerandsens wrote:Crazy third period. I love the resilience this team shows, I held hope that they would turn it around and they did.

Yep, they sure did. And three times too!

I'll take Weber any day over Suter but point taken. There was a shift where he actually score the 2nd time, where he DOMINATED Michalek down low and didnt give him an inch. Maybe the most impressive defensive play I have seen all year from any player in The NHL. How you stop a 225lbs beast dead in his tracks is beyond me, but he did it.

N4L wrote:

Vandelay wrote:

N4L wrote:Karlsson on the PP last night and in the offensive zone was unreal. Some of the passes he was making to Alfi and Campoli on the point were awe striking. Couldnt believe a couple of those cross ice passes, just awesome to watch from that standpoint.

Only way he is going to learn is by making those mistakes now. People who say he should be down in the AHL dont realize how badly he would control the play down there and domiante, thus he doesnt learn a thing. Agaisnt the best you become the best, Karlsson will grow into that number 1, stud D man.

Cheechoo has to stay in, he was getting the chances and playing well, that whole top line was. Spezza will carry Cheechoo with Michalek and he will start to produce. You never lose that scoring touch, just your conifednce.

You gotta think Cheech is right on the edge...so close so many times, doing the little things right but, last night hurts. Even if he's not taken out for Saturday's game, his confidence needs a jolt. His teammate in SJ comes over with him and is tearing it up and he can't buy a goal, playing on the same line. Clouston better be saying the right things...keep at it, the bounces will come, put the one bad game behind you and get back to what you were doing....

Sat him on his Donkey last night for Shannon. Sat Donovan on his Donkey for Shannon... not liking that at all and it is pretty concerning to me as well. Clouston is 100% playing favorites.

We'll see Saturday night.  It's like rooney said, for the money, cheech needs to be in the lineup, playing on the first line where, last night aside, he's played well.  Even if the dollars were the same, I would not be pleased if Shanon is in and Cheech is out.

N4L wrote:

ddt wrote:That's McDreary for you. He always has to try and be the show. The sooner he realizes fans are not there to see him the better.

Ya, he's a dick but there is no way those were not penalties for The Sens last night. You can make the arguement that NAshville should have had a couple more but the refs didnt cost The Sens the game, no shot and if you or anyone else convinced yourself of that... watch the game again if you can.

Yeah, the penalties were not bad calls, but watch any game he's involved in, and he almost always tries to take over. And not just the Sens either, nobody likes this clown.

If Shannon is in at all I will be upset. There is 100% no reason why he should be, none.

Clouston might be trying to give Cheech extra motivation. He's mentioned several times that the healthy competition for roster spots is good.

It might just be a message "score some goals or Shannon gets your spot"

What's wong with this sentence?

He set up Milan Michalek for a prime scoring chance in the opening seconds, but after Predators goaltender Penne Rikke made an outstanding pad save, the Senators didn’t test him again until they were down 3-0.

N4L wrote:What was the score last time they played us at home... They wont get 5 goals from their D every night so that was a rarity we saw. Weber is the man though, best Canadian D man on the planet.

You're gonna love this...

The Preds’ last trip to Kanata – two seasons ago on Nov. 29, 2007 – proved to be a memorable one, as they squeezed out a 6-5 victory behind Martin Erat’s game-winning goal with just 23 seconds left in regulation. Nashville held a 5-3 advantage going into the second-half of the third period before goals at 11:39 (Jason Spezza) and 19:14 (Daniel Alfredsson) tied it up.

Same score. How funny is that?

N4L wrote:

shabbs wrote:Coming out flat is one thing... but flat and that stupid was something I've never seen. It was unbelievable. Like the whole team had a lobotomy or something.

I seriosuly put a lot of that on CLouston and taking out Donovan. That guy did everything to get back into the lineup and more than needed to stay in, then he gets taken out and a guy like Shannon (whos done Diddle all) gets top PP mins and top line duty... are you kidding?

Players notice this kind of stuff and this absoutely effected thier play, no doubt in my mind about that. Clouston has to be held accountable just as much as everyone else on that team.

I hope that the decision to play Shannon over Donovan was due to Kuba being out. Clouston is obviously more comfortable with Shannon on the PP than Karlsson, although that seems to be changing.

i have to say that i'm impressed so far on how the sens are playing--opposing teams need to work in order to win and also most admit that they are playing better than i thought they could

however, i'd bench fisher for a period next game--i really like fisher but he played greedy and it costed the sens the overtime--he is at the opposing blue line--they are short hand and instead of him just dimbing it in the corner he tries to burn the defenceman --what happens--he loses the puck they come down and bang the game is over--thats selfish hockey and fisher knows better

sidstu wrote:i have to say that i'm impressed so far on how the sens are playing--opposing teams need to work in order to win and also most admit that they are playing better than i thought they could

however, i'd bench fisher for a period next game--i really like fisher but he played greedy and it costed the sens the overtime--he is at the opposing blue line--they are short hand and instead of him just dimbing it in the corner he tries to burn the defenceman --what happens--he loses the puck they come down and bang the game is over--thats selfish hockey and fisher knows better

It was a 4 on 3 at that time he dove to try to get the puck out and it unfortunately hit the defenseman. I wouldn't say he was being greedy there at all, he was trying to save the team from being scored on. He did the best he could to get the puck out, it was an unfortunate bounce. Fisher has been amazing this season, there is no chance in hell he'd get benched.

he dove, check the reply--he cut in and he lost the puck--he the chance to dump the puck in the corner and he didn't and b/c of the turnover high on the blueline it costed the sens the overtime

the reply doesn't lie--i saw it at least 10 times before i decided to say something

don't get me wrong i like fisher but he know better===in regards to sitting him i know he won't get benched and he shouldn't--its a figure of speech but he needs a blast from the coach--thats bs what he did

RobbyJ wrote:

asq2 wrote:Bogus.

Way to take over a game, refs.

What are you referring to ?

Phillips shot the puck over the glass, too many men, and then the Carkner takedown. They were all obvious calls.

The call on Phillips was an obvious one. That's a BS play but until it's taken off the books it's an automatic (should be handled same as an icing call -- face off deep in the defensive zone and no opportunity to change). The call on Ruutu,also a huge blunder by someone on the bench, maybe Clouston.

However that face off when Fisher almost knocks it out he was tripped by the centre. With a 5 on 3 that's got to be an automatic. The guy's stick is right in his ankles. Sure Fisher dove to get to the puck, but it doesn't change the fact that there was a trip.

And the call on Carkner was borderline at best. No way it should be called in OT. He lunged to push the puck away and fell down, the Pred player tripped over him. If Carkner doesn't extend his arm and leg to make it *look* like holding or interference there is no call, but the guy was already on his way down tripping over Carkner, so his extra leg/arm stretch doesn't change the play.

Also there was so much hooking and interference that wasn't being called (against the Preds) all night. Kovalev didn't have a good game, but he was definitely interfered with a few times trying to get to the crease without the puck. Bah!

All that said, they played crap in the first and that's why they lost more than anything else. Not a single hit thrown until it was 0-3. Inexcusable. Giveaways by all our "best" players -- Kelly, Alfredsson, Kovalev. Horrible all night long. Why Picard still had that much ice time after 2 is beyond my capacity to reason.

Spezza was a man possessed. If Alfredsson played half that well, if Kovalev gave half a though about covering the point, if Picard sat out, if Phillips played it off the boards instead of over the glass, if Alfie didn't miss the open net, if ...

On that play where Kovalev didn't cover the point, could it be because Alfie wasn't covering *his* point? Kovalev seemed to be cheating a bit toward the left point. I don't know, it looked suspicious.

Urkie wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:

asq2 wrote:Bogus.

Way to take over a game, refs.

What are you referring to ?

Phillips shot the puck over the glass, too many men, and then the Carkner takedown. They were all obvious calls.

They were obvious calls but I was p****d that they didn't call that pick on the Preds PP. That was a pretty blatant penalty right there.

I was screaming at the TV this morning replaying it. My kid didn't understand why so I slow-mo'd it for him. Definite pick. There were many other calls that didn't get made, too.

Still, except for the outcome, you've got to admit that was one heck of an exciting game. The players are going to be pretty ticked off. This could spell trouble for the Bruins.

sidstu wrote:he dove, check the reply--he cut in and he lost the puck--he the chance to dump the puck in the corner and he didn't and b/c of the turnover high on the blueline it costed the sens the overtime

the reply doesn't lie--i saw it at least 10 times before i decided to say something

don't get me wrong i like fisher but he know better===in regards to sitting him i know he won't get benched and he shouldn't--its a figure of speech but he needs a blast from the coach--thats bs what he did

I'm not sure I understand what play you are talking about??? He never cut in at the opposing blue line, the puck never got out of the zone at the end

RobbyJ wrote:We played like crap, gave up 3PP goals I think, made stupid mistakes all night, yet still got as many points tonight as leaves have gotten all year.

It was 2 PPG, one of them on a 2-man advantage, and the trip on Fisher (not called) should have negated it. They also scored short-handed.

cloverleaf wrote:If you call carkner, you have to call that pick.
Carkner was horrible though and was a minus 4.
Fisher also had a good game.

Carkner was -3 with Picard at his side. Giveaways on every even-strength goal. Leclaire wasn't great on a couple of the shots (like the OT winner, for one), but I can't hang this one on Snoopy. Or Carkner. Picard wears the horns for last night, but he had lots of help as well.

I checked Spezza's FO stats and he was 63%, but I don't remember him losing a faceoff in the third.

I agree with everything, but Leclaire wasn't good enough. OT shot getting in along the ice between the legs -- stick on the ice and the game keeps going. And the rebound on that goal where Kovalev didn't cover the point was huge. The shot wasn't a hard one to handle at all.

Yes, he saved their bacon on many occasions, but he was not entirely without blame.

Same for the refs. That's not why the Sens lost -- they lost it in the 1st, gained a point in the 3rd. But the refs made calls on the Sens that they did nit make on the Preds. When there is a 5 on 3 going on you've got to call trips and picks, you just gotta! And the call on Picard at that point in the game, wow. I already explained why I don't think it was even a penalty. And how about putting Foligno away for the rest of the game with that misconduct? He was part of our best line on the night and he was sitting in the box for 12 minutes.

N4L wrote:The good.

Leclaire. Let in 6 but none were on him. He is the only reason that game wasnt a total blow out.

Spezza, AMAZING. Even in the 1st he was making defensive plays and really competing. Tried to do a little too much at times but in the 3rd he took over. Great game.

Phillips and A Train. Dominate again.

Regin. Looked good his first game back.

Campoli. Best game yet, something to build on.

The Bad.

Picard. Perhaps the single worst game I have ever seen from a defenseman, ever. He was that bad. He single handedly cost his team 3 goals. A little bad luck but he was aweful. He didnt see the ice in the 3rd. Hopefully he can bounce back but WOW.

Shannon. Why did Donovan come out? Shannon is useless and was taken off that top PP unit for Karlsson by the end of the game. He's been garbage all year and he didnt do anything to change that tonight.

Cheechoo. Uhhh, he played? Awful.

Carkner. Doesnt help that his partner was the worst player in the NHL tonight and perhaps the AHL, but he has to be better.