Sens holding off on roster cuts

I have a funny feeling that Regin won't stick with the roster and so we'll go into the season with 23 (including Winch), then when Winchester is back Regin will have slid enough that he gets sent down. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this sense that he's going to need more time in Bingo before he sticks with the team.

I could see him being called up later in the season and at that point forcing Murray to keep him on the roster.

Am I the only one who is thinking this?

Your guess is as good as anyones Cap'n, but I must say I was impressed with Regin's combativeness. I think that factor should put him over the top in terms of sticking with the big club.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I have a funny feeling that Regin won't stick with the roster and so we'll go into the season with 23 (including Winch), then when Winchester is back Regin will have slid enough that he gets sent down. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this sense that he's going to need more time in Bingo before he sticks with the team.

I could see him being called up later in the season and at that point forcing Murray to keep him on the roster.

Am I the only one who is thinking this?

Regin is here for sure.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I have a funny feeling that Regin won't stick with the roster and so we'll go into the season with 23 (including Winch), then when Winchester is back Regin will have slid enough that he gets sent down. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this sense that he's going to need more time in Bingo before he sticks with the team.

I could see him being called up later in the season and at that point forcing Murray to keep him on the roster.

Am I the only one who is thinking this?

If nothing changes, that's a very likely scenario. The all-mighty two-way contract is often the key factor when crunch time comes around roster-wise. Regin and Lee both have two-ways, as does Foligno but Foligno ain't going nowhere.

shabbs wrote:My only guess for waiting is that Murray is trying to get something done with Schubert in order to avoid waiving him.

Murray has gone on record saying he wants a 21 man roster, Clouston has said he wants a 22-man roster. That's cutting either 5 or 4 guys... so it could go beyond just Z. Smith, Lee and Schubie. Then we're into Carkner + territory for sure.

Thats what I was saying in the gameday thread... I thin Carkner might start the year there until Winchester is healthy and a trade is made.

The reason they are holding off is because of that team building aspect. It makes perfect sense. You don't "build a team" and then kick someone off of it---especially if you one day expect that person to be a part of the team.

There is no way they let Regin rot in Bingo and that's exactly what he would be doing. Long term and even short term they know it's better off Waiving Shubert if it comes to that and giving Regin that spot.

If Regin gets sent down after all this there will be a lot of questions to be answered to start the season because of Murray. CC wants him here.

If Foligno has any major set backs in his play then I wouldn't rule him out as a candidate for being sent down personally. He's shown what he's capable of but if he goes a few weeks with poor play, reduced roll and ice time then I certainly wouldn't rule it out. I don't see that occuring but it's a possible scenario.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I have a funny feeling that Regin won't stick with the roster and so we'll go into the season with 23 (including Winch), then when Winchester is back Regin will have slid enough that he gets sent down. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this sense that he's going to need more time in Bingo before he sticks with the team.

I could see him being called up later in the season and at that point forcing Murray to keep him on the roster.

Am I the only one who is thinking this?

Yes you are lol Regin is not getting cut. Donovan, Schubert, Carkner, Lee, and Smith are all cut WAY before him. Hell, Kelly could very well get traded before Regin gets cut.

N4L wrote:There is no way they let Regin rot in Bingo and that's exactly what he would be doing. Long term and even short term they know it's better off Waiving Shubert if it comes to that and giving Regin that spot.

If Regin gets sent down after all this there will be a lot of questions to be answered to start the season because of Murray. CC wants him here.

Maybe my post wasn't clear. I fully expect Regin to start the year with Ottawa. I just have this feeling that by the time Winchester is healthy that Regin's play will have slid enough to warrant sending him down to Bingo. It's just a bad feeling I have not an expectation at all.

CCgotITcovered wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I have a funny feeling that Regin won't stick with the roster and so we'll go into the season with 23 (including Winch), then when Winchester is back Regin will have slid enough that he gets sent down. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this sense that he's going to need more time in Bingo before he sticks with the team.

I could see him being called up later in the season and at that point forcing Murray to keep him on the roster.

Am I the only one who is thinking this?

Yes you are lol Regin is not getting cut. Donovan, Schubert, Carkner, Lee, and Smith are all cut WAY before him. Hell, Kelly could very well get traded before Regin gets cut.

I don't expect Regin to get cut. What I was trying to say was that I had a bad feeling that, once Winchester is healthy and ready to return, that Regin's play will have slid enough to justify sending him to Bingo.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

CCgotITcovered wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I have a funny feeling that Regin won't stick with the roster and so we'll go into the season with 23 (including Winch), then when Winchester is back Regin will have slid enough that he gets sent down. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this sense that he's going to need more time in Bingo before he sticks with the team.

I could see him being called up later in the season and at that point forcing Murray to keep him on the roster.

Am I the only one who is thinking this?

Yes you are lol Regin is not getting cut. Donovan, Schubert, Carkner, Lee, and Smith are all cut WAY before him. Hell, Kelly could very well get traded before Regin gets cut.

I don't expect Regin to get cut. What I was trying to say was that I had a bad feeling that, once Winchester is healthy and ready to return, that Regin's play will have slid enough to justify sending him to Bingo.

Oh yeah, its possible and so is the thought about Foligno sliding. I just don't see it. They are both NHL calibre players right now. Sometimes players have to take a step backwards so they can take two steps forward though, so if they do and get sent down, w/e... I'm confident each of them will be a full time NHLer next season.

It would be a bonus if it did happen, because it would bring down their price this summer

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

N4L wrote:There is no way they let Regin rot in Bingo and that's exactly what he would be doing. Long term and even short term they know it's better off Waiving Shubert if it comes to that and giving Regin that spot.

If Regin gets sent down after all this there will be a lot of questions to be answered to start the season because of Murray. CC wants him here.

Maybe my post wasn't clear. I fully expect Regin to start the year with Ottawa. I just have this feeling that by the time Winchester is healthy that Regin's play will have slid enough to warrant sending him down to Bingo. It's just a bad feeling I have not an expectation at all.

He is not Bochenski, Regin is a good player who knows how to play the game on basically every level. He isnt the type of player that will warrent being sent down at any point this year.

If that actually happens I will be shocked. Regin is here to stick, doesnt matter who comes back in the lineup.

Well, with Schubie on waivers now the picture becomes much more clear.

The only other shoe to drop will be to send Z. Smith and Lee down to Bingo resulting in a 23-man roster including Winch, thus keeping Regin, Karlsson and Carkner up.

So, is this the final roster?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I have a funny feeling that Regin won't stick with the roster and so we'll go into the season with 23 (including Winch), then when Winchester is back Regin will have slid enough that he gets sent down. I hope I'm wrong but I just get this sense that he's going to need more time in Bingo before he sticks with the team.

I could see him being called up later in the season and at that point forcing Murray to keep him on the roster.

Am I the only one who is thinking this?

I don't see why. He's 23, he's got ample experience at the NA game and even some at the NHL level already. He's a very intelligent, well-rounded player that isn't only effective when scoring. He's about NHL size already (he'll add some lbs as his career goes on) and his skating is at a very high level.

He doesn't have anything to learn at the AHL level and I don't see him getting supplanted in the top-3 centre positions.

So is this it? We start the season with a 23 man roster? How long before 1 or 2 more players are moved? Do they wait for Winchester to get healthy before anymore moves are made?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:So is this it? We start the season with a 23 man roster? How long before 1 or 2 more players are moved? Do they wait for Winchester to get healthy before anymore moves are made?

Well, considering Winch is injured, I think Murray would start with a 23-man roster (including Winch) and then make a decision / move when Winch is healthy.

That's gonna be tough because it may likely affect some other player as it's not as simple as moving Regin out and Winchester in.

Hmmm...

Actually, it seems that by placing Winchester on the injured list, they can get down to a 23-man roster by waiving Schubert and sending Z. Smith down, which they have done.

http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=500125

So, in theory, they could sit on the roster they have now with Lee up.