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SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
Fair enough, but still silly IMO. Whatever, they can do what they want. I guess they're comfortable enough now that Hiller is ready to be Number 1.

Now's the time though. If they can do it, then let it happen. They might need to try to pry one of Toronto's D-men away if possible though, their D has been flailing lately. Well...it's not just that, they're not really that great anymore. Pronger was a massive piece of their puzzle.

Very true, I can't believe they let him walk. Unbelievable. Pretty similar to us and Chara. I think Chara's better though of course.

Flailing D...sounds familiar.

marakh wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
Fair enough, but still silly IMO. Whatever, they can do what they want. I guess they're comfortable enough now that Hiller is ready to be Number 1.

Now's the time though. If they can do it, then let it happen. They might need to try to pry one of Toronto's D-men away if possible though, their D has been flailing lately. Well...it's not just that, they're not really that great anymore. Pronger was a massive piece of their puzzle.

Very true, I can't believe they let him walk. Unbelievable. Pretty similar to us and Chara. I think Chara's better though of course.

Flailing D...sounds familiar.

I wouldn'T call Lupul, Sbiza(underrated) and 2 first round picks "walking". In fact, I would make that deal without thinking if I am the DUcks.

PKC wrote:I didn't want to start another thread/riot, but, maybe it's time for a trade discussion that will get everyone talking:

Alexei Kovalev for Carey Price

PKC wrote:I didn't want to start another thread/riot, but, maybe it's time for a trade discussion that will get everyone talking:

Alexei Kovalev for Carey Price

marakh wrote:

PKC wrote:I didn't want to start another thread/riot, but, maybe it's time for a trade discussion that will get everyone talking:

Alexei Kovalev for Carey Price

Then we send Price to Detroit for Kronwall

davetherave wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

davetherave wrote:
My friend, this rumour's so old it's applied for the Canada Pension Plan.

Okay, you were acting like you didn't know. I thought I should try to explain, sorry.

@Spez-D> no worries, my friend...what's the point, if we can't have a little fun every once in a while, hm?

Anyway, about Giguere...the talk of his leaving Anaheim has been going on ever since he had his family issues last year, and the injuries, and Jonas Hiller taking the top job....and of course, the speculation about Toronto started because of the relationship with Burke, and the moment Burke hired Allaire, the rumour mill started grinding.

I was teasing you about the Ek connection (Ek's real name is Dwayne by the way, and he appears to be held in as much contempt by a number of media professionals, as he is by the astute members of GMH).

HOWEVER...

Besides being a regular columnist for the NHL, Paul Kukla, runs, in my professional opinion, absolutely the best hockey info site anywhere on the web. He tracks down the best articles by the best professional writers in the business and billboards them on his site...in addition to some pretty darn good bloggers at KK as well, like Sens Hobo (in my mind the most objective Sens blogger out there).

Kukla features an article today on Giguere that pretty much spells out the situation.

Here's the article:

Ducks goaltender Jean- Sebastien Giguere was in full health Monday and will accompany the team on a four-game road trip starting Wednesday in New Jersey.

But for how much longer?

Now that he's recovered from the strained groin he suffered on Oct. 24, Giguere has an opportunity to wrest the No. 1 job from Jonas Hiller, who has started the last six games. If Giguere cannot regain the starting job, he said "I'd rather retire than be a backup goalie."

"Something needs to happen," Giguere said. "You get a guy like (Hiller) that's going to be a free agent at the end of the year and myself, making the money I'm making, either I'm leaving or he's leaving."

Hiller, 27, is due $1.3 million in the final year of his contract. Giguere, 32, will make $13 million over the next two seasons. This has led to speculation that the Ducks would seek a deal for Giguere, who has a no-trade clause in his contract.

Giguere, asked Monday if he has been approached about waiving the no-trade clause, said, "That's something you probably should ask Bob Murray." The Ducks' general manager declined comment through a spokesperson.

"I want to play; that's when I have fun. Right now, this is not fun," Giguere said. "I am looking forward to having fun at some point at some time. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but it's going to happen."

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_13751868

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/giguere_does_not_want_to_be_a_backup/


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My opinion? I think a deal between the Ducks and Toronto is not out of the question.

Gustavsson seems to have no ego problems being a 1 or 1a or a 2...Giguere has one more year on his contract after this one.

The numbers, and the situation, could be made to work for both parties.

But, there could be other options...and I have no real idea what those might be.

SpezDispenser wrote: Kulka's fantastic, yeah. Wow, this is even more serious than I thought. I heard his comments, but reading them there is serious business. He wants to play, end of story. The question will be: Toskala isn't enough, is there a way the Ducks can get a backup for Hiller and a D-man?

davetherave wrote:
Why wouldn't Toskala be an adequate backup in Anaheim?

If Bob Murray were to make this deal, he leaves himself with plenty of options for next year.

And as I pointed out, the Ducks have a good stock of defensemen.

Dash wrote:Ducks could probably get Exelby or Frogren, both are scratched or demoted right now. Leafs lineup last night was: Kaberle-Komi, Beauchemin-Schenn, White-Finger.

I see that Komi left the game last night with a lower body injury, so they may have to dress Exelby or call someone up. Bottom line, Leafs have too many one-way contracted defenceman.

SpezDispenser wrote:

davetherave wrote:
Why wouldn't Toskala be an adequate backup in Anaheim?

If Bob Murray were to make this deal, he leaves himself with plenty of options for next year.

And as I pointed out, the Ducks have a good stock of defensemen.

If I was in his position, I would probably make that trade one for one, yeah. If there's to be a Giguere sweepstakes though (assuming he'll waive his NTC), can the Ducks get a little more? Giguere is not that far removed from being the cream of the goalie crop.

SpezDispenser wrote:Detroit claims Drew Miller.

SensGirl11 wrote:
Really? He was waived?...hmmm

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
Really? He was waived?...hmmm

Wait...what team did he play for? Tampa Bay - or was it the Ducks? TB I think, they acquired him for Artukin (sp).

As per Bob McKenzie on Twitter: Florida claims MacIntyre from Edmonton, Arnason (NYR) and Miller (TBay) on waivers. Mair (Buff) clears waivers. Nylander heading to Russia

Arnason has been suspended by the Rangers for accepting a deal overseas, so that was just a formality.