Redden possibly being waived

wprager wrote:Unbelievable ... and, yet, so predictable.

I wonder if they are sending up smoke-signals to shock Wade into re-thinking his philosophy on playing. Anyone see him on Road Hockey Rumble? They were playing in his home town and asked him to join in, he scored something like 6 goals. The NHL ain't Road Hockey, Wade!

Even an organization like the Rangers, $6.5M for another 5 years is a lot of money. Of course they could set up a web site -- KeepWadeInTheAHL.com -- and collect money from fans and sponsors to keep him playing there.

Yeah, I know I sound harsh, and since I was never a Redden fan or supporter it's easier for me. But this guy signed a long-term, high-end contract, and is not willing to play up to it. Or, if this is the best he *can* do for whatever reason (i.e. he is playing at as high a level as he currently is capable of playing), then he would have known this last year, before he signed, and should have never signed for this much.

Can you blame a guy for signing a huge contract? Can you say, "Well, if someone gives you that much money, would you not take it?" I suppose, just like in Gerber's case. But at least Gerber was coming off a 38 win season, perhaps he *thought* he could do this on a regular basis and be a #1 starter. In Wade's case, he has sucked for three years. Also, for Gerber, that was his first big contract, and it was about half of Redden's.

Bottom line, I strongly feel that a man with integrity, who has been playing like a sub-average player for three years, while collecting a superstar salary, should not have signed the same (but twice as long) contract.

I'm still hoping that this can be somehow worked out. Maybe he starts playing well-enough that they could get someone to pick him up on re-entry waivers for half price? Or a change of scenery trade where teams are exchanging contracts (hard to find a similar contract, though). I'm still pulling for Redden to man up and play the way he is paid; if not, he really should consider retirement.

rooneypoo wrote:
Anyway, the whole thing is an embarrassment, for the team and for Redden. It's true, you can't blame for sitting around and picking up $40 mil... but if he had any self-respect, he'd just retire and save everyone the embarrassment. That seems like the only honourable way out for him at this point.

davetherave wrote:Being curious about this, I read Garrioch's piece..."There is talk the Rangers might waive D Wade Redden at the start of next season and send him to the AHL's Hartford Wolf Pack to get his $6.5-million salary off the books."

Is this for real, or another one of Bruce's donut holes masquerading as 'insider info'?

504Heater wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
Anyway, the whole thing is an embarrassment, for the team and for Redden. It's true, you can't blame for sitting around and picking up $40 mil... but if he had any self-respect, he'd just retire and save everyone the embarrassment. That seems like the only honourable way out for him at this point.

No way would I do that if I were Redden. You offered 6.5 million dollars and I accepted. The Rangers (Sather) are the idiots here. Anyone who didn't see that at the time didn't know Redden like we did. It was one of those 'what the Diddle just happened?' moments that I won't soon forget.

The only embarrassment here is on Sather IMO. And I believe if he floats this idea for real, he should be relieved of duty.

Now...are the Rangers threatening this so Redden will waive his NTC? That's the flip side. Waive your NTC, or we'll waive you. I can't imagine another team willing to absorb the 6.5 million, but there might be a team out there who has a bum contract that might think about swapping. Can't think of anyone off the top of my head, but there are craptastic contracts out there where the Rangers might find a partner.

It'll take Redden + something substantial to take back a bum contract. Like Dubinsky. That kind of substantial.

Boneheads.

rooneypoo wrote:Six years of being an embarrassment and a burden to yourself, your teammates, your team, your bosses, and your team's fans might change your mind, Heater.

This guy is gonna feel the heat for this deal for another 5 years, and it's only gonna get worse as he gets worse. Take the money and retire while you still have some face to save, and before you become a running joke for a generation of hockey fans. A buyout, or permanent demotion, probably just isn't feasible, and I really can't see anyone taking on that contract, for any price. Have some pride; go out a man, not a man whore.

SensFan71 wrote:could see this coming from a mile away, talk about handcuffed with another 5 years at 6.5 million, stupid Sather.

Phoenix30 wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:could see this coming from a mile away, talk about handcuffed with another 5 years at 6.5 million, stupid Sather.

At least Redden didnt get the NMC. NYR would be really screwed if they gave that up.

SensFan71 wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:could see this coming from a mile away, talk about handcuffed with another 5 years at 6.5 million, stupid Sather.

At least Redden didnt get the NMC. NYR would be really screwed if they gave that up.

touche on that one, but mind you, a buyout would have to cost them huge at this point, because no one in their right mind would take him, unless it was a team in the KHL.

Phoenix30 wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:could see this coming from a mile away, talk about handcuffed with another 5 years at 6.5 million, stupid Sather.

At least Redden didnt get the NMC. NYR would be really screwed if they gave that up.

shabbs wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:could see this coming from a mile away, talk about handcuffed with another 5 years at 6.5 million, stupid Sather.

At least Redden didnt get the NMC. NYR would be really screwed if they gave that up.

I believe he has a "limited NTC" that he and Sather agreed on. Can't remember the number of teams but he has a list that it's limited to.

rooneypoo wrote:

504Heater wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
Anyway, the whole thing is an embarrassment, for the team and for Redden. It's true, you can't blame for sitting around and picking up $40 mil... but if he had any self-respect, he'd just retire and save everyone the embarrassment. That seems like the only honourable way out for him at this point.

No way would I do that if I were Redden. You offered 6.5 million dollars and I accepted. The Rangers (Sather) are the idiots here. Anyone who didn't see that at the time didn't know Redden like we did. It was one of those 'what the Diddle just happened?' moments that I won't soon forget.

The only embarrassment here is on Sather IMO. And I believe if he floats this idea for real, he should be relieved of duty.

Now...are the Rangers threatening this so Redden will waive his NTC? That's the flip side. Waive your NTC, or we'll waive you. I can't imagine another team willing to absorb the 6.5 million, but there might be a team out there who has a bum contract that might think about swapping. Can't think of anyone off the top of my head, but there are craptastic contracts out there where the Rangers might find a partner.

It'll take Redden + something substantial to take back a bum contract. Like Dubinsky. That kind of substantial.

Boneheads.

Six years of being an embarrassment and a burden to yourself, your teammates, your team, your bosses, and your team's fans might change your mind, Heater.

This guy is gonna feel the heat for this deal for another 5 years, and it's only gonna get worse as he gets worse. Take the money and retire while you still have some face to save, and before you become a running joke for a generation of hockey fans. A buyout, or permanent demotion, probably just isn't feasible, and I really can't see anyone taking on that contract, for any price. Have some pride; go out a man, not a man whore.

cash wrote:
You make a good point, but he is an undeniably talented player. He just makes decisions too slowly, which causes him to make mistakes countless times. With his vision and passing ability, I'm pretty confident that he could still play in this league, provided he had some proper off-season training. If he worked all summer on his acceleration and skating, as well as reflex training, then he could probably be worth his paycheck.

Of course, I could be wrong....

cash wrote:No its definitely limited... I don't know what the limitation is, but the number 12 comes to mind when I think of how many teams he can be traded to.