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A look at the Chicago situation

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1A look at the Chicago situation Empty A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 10:39 am

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I know this has been brought up before and refuted quite a bit by our lone Chicago fan davetherave however, I came across this tidbit on Sportsnet written by Mark Spector who, correct me if I'm wrong, is a respected writer in DTRs books. Below is a quote from his full article. I didn't quote the entire article because only this part pertains to the Hawks.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2009/05/25/spector_onspec/

How would you like to be Chicago general manager Dale Talllon right now?

Brian Campbell is signed for four more years at $7.14 million per, and he is your third best defenceman behind Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook.

You’ve got goalie
Cristobal Huet signed for three more seasons at $5.625 per, and his game is a mess.

Meanwhile,
Nikolai Khabibulin, the goalie who got you this far, will have to go elsewhere as an unrestricted free agent (UFA) this summer.

Tallon has done a fantastic job of building the organization from the ground up. But typically, the quick free-agent fix is where the ‘Hawks GM has tripped up.

It might be impossible to keep UFA
Martin Havlat this summer. Tallon has to sign restricted free agents Kris Versteeg, Dave Bolland, Troy Brouwer, Ben Eager and Cam Barker this summer, keeping in mind that his three best players — Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews and Keith — are all RFA’s in 2010.

Any team looking to get bigger and harder to play against — i.e. Montreal, Edmonton and Vancouver — should be looking at Eager, Brouwer and Barker this summer. And Bolland will be a good second-line centre for years to come.

If the vultures aren’t circling, they should be.

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Meanwhile, Huet dodged the media after his rare playoff start on Sunday, a bad sign.

Look — this isn’t about us sports writers. It is not as important that Huet speaks to the scribes and faces the cameras, per se, as is the message his absence sends. Here’s a guy who hasn’t had to do an interview for five weeks. Now, when duty calls, he runs, forcing his teammates to answer the tough questions on his behalf.

What does that say about Huet’s character? It says he’s all in when the going is smooth, but he’ll leave the spade work up to everyone else when times get tough.


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2A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 10:41 am

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I was kind of against canning Tallon because he built a pretty good team. This article kind of paints a negative picture of him but it's still not enough to convince me he should get the axe.

3A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 10:51 am

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I don't necessarily believe he should be fired either. I'm just pointing out the work ahead for the Hawks GM and the fact that there will be some hard decisions to make and some bad decisions that he's likely stuck with.


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4A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 10:55 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:I don't necessarily believe he should be fired either. I'm just pointing out the work ahead for the Hawks GM and the fact that there will be some hard decisions to make and some bad decisions that he's likely stuck with.

There's work ahead for every GM in the NHL. Tallon is doing a great job. He's in a no win situation. If Chicago is perceived as a failure, he has to wear it. If they succeed, Scotty Bowman gets a lot of credit for being there and, well, collecting a paycheque.

5A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 10:58 am

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In Tallon's defense, when he signed Huet, Khabby was off back to back sub-par, injury filled years. The pressure was getting pretty significant to get someone in goal who could be counted on. He certainly rolled the dice, but he was in a tough spot.

6A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 10:58 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:I don't necessarily believe he should be fired either. I'm just pointing out the work ahead for the Hawks GM and the fact that there will be some hard decisions to make and some bad decisions that he's likely stuck with.

There's work ahead for every GM in the NHL. Tallon is doing a great job. He's in a no win situation. If Chicago is perceived as a failure, he has to wear it. If they succeed, Scotty Bowman gets a lot of credit for being there and, well, collecting a paycheque.

True but how many teams continue to have success with their 3rd best D man locked up for several years at over 7 M per? How many might have to let their best Goalie walk and keep one that's struggling mightely at 5 + M per?


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7A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 10:59 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:I don't necessarily believe he should be fired either. I'm just pointing out the work ahead for the Hawks GM and the fact that there will be some hard decisions to make and some bad decisions that he's likely stuck with.

There's work ahead for every GM in the NHL. Tallon is doing a great job. He's in a no win situation. If Chicago is perceived as a failure, he has to wear it. If they succeed, Scotty Bowman gets a lot of credit for being there and, well, collecting a paycheque.

True but how many teams continue to have success with their 3rd best D man locked up for several years at over 7 M per? How many might have to let their best Goalie walk and keep one that's struggling mightely at 5 + M per?

I don't think Soupy will be that hard to trade. Huet is a problem but 5 million bucks isn't such a big deal in today's NHL.

8A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:01 am

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504Heater wrote:In Tallon's defense, when he signed Huet, Khabby was off back to back sub-par, injury filled years. The pressure was getting pretty significant to get someone in goal who could be counted on. He certainly rolled the dice, but he was in a tough spot.

He gambled and lost in goal and he seems to have gambled on D and overpaid for his 3rd best D man. The possibility of losing Havlat I pin on him as well since he spent too much for guys he could have done without.


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9A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:03 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:

I don't think Soupy will be that hard to trade. Huet is a problem but 5 million bucks isn't such a big deal in today's NHL.

They might be able to find a way out of the Campbell situation but Huet is looking like the next Gerber. An anchor of a salary that they're stuck with until he's off the books.


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10A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:07 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
He gambled and lost in goal and he seems to have gambled on D and overpaid for his 3rd best D man. The possibility of losing Havlat I pin on him as well since he spent too much for guys he could have done without.

How do we know he lost in goal? He career numbers are astounding - especially considering he played in the goalie graveyard in Montreal. He has a .917 save % and a 2.45 GAA in almost 250 career NHL games. Not too shabby. Don't look at the playoff numbers he's posting this year, he's been literally tossed into the fire after not playing for months - against Detroit nonetheless.

The challenge for Huet will be winning a playoff series. He's been to a game 7 and lost and can't seem to get over that hump, but when he does, I think Chicago's fine. They overpaid by a million, but there were suitors for Huet for sure.

As for Campbell...bad decision, I won't sugar coat that one. But, again, you know what he brings to the table. 50 points and the potential for 70 and a bolster on the PP. If push comes to shove, I'm sure he can be moved.

11A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:11 am

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Brian Campbell might be the real knock against Tallon if there is one, he really hasn't panned out as well as Tallon thought, other than that, most of the negative reaction is due to Chicago being schooled by Detroit right now, this is the first time the Hawks are back in it again and they went to the conference finals already, quite a turn around if you ask me.

12A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:16 am

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These are the types of situation that can make or break a General Manager in the NHL.

Not too long ago, the Ottawa Senators had probably the most formidable six defensemen in the league. In one offseason, one cap crunch, we went from formidable to average. And now look where we are...barely hanging on, trying to figure out how to shift salary from the front of the roster to the backend.

Dave Tallon has a hell of job to do this upcoming summer, but that's why they pay him millions of dollars to do this job...and that's why they won't hesitate to fire him if he messes it up.

13A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:17 am

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SensFan71 wrote:Brian Campbell might be the real knock against Tallon if there is one, he really hasn't panned out as well as Tallon thought, other than that, most of the negative reaction is due to Chicago being schooled by Detroit right now, this is the first time the Hawks are back in it again and they went to the conference finals already, quite a turn around if you ask me.

Hey congrats on making it to 2000 posts. BTW if you hit 5000 you become a MR Montagoose. 10,000 is SIR Montagoose. That's right you are knighted at 10,000 LOL. Sorry Heater you will always stay listed as Co-Founder. I'm sure you don't mind though right?


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14A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:20 am

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But I thought they were the model franchise?

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15A look at the Chicago situation Empty Re: A look at the Chicago situation Tue May 26, 2009 11:32 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Hey congrats on making it to 2000 posts. BTW if you hit 5000 you become a MR Montagoose. 10,000 is SIR Montagoose. That's right you are knighted at 10,000 LOL. Sorry Heater you will always stay listed as Co-Founder. I'm sure you don't mind though right?

How about SIR co-founder? Wink :h:

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