Leafs continue to build through free agency

He's got picks.

shabbs wrote:He's got picks.

He's 'The Burke' LOL

shabbs wrote:Word is he wants real playing time right from the start. How many teams can offer that?

Toronto - with no problems at all. They'll just trade Toskala.

Cronie wrote:Excellent point Heater.

Good on Burke for looking busy anyway. LOL

But seriously, this Slaney fella (from checking around) definitely had some padded stats and numbers...

well if he is not busy, the media will outcry big time in Toronto lol, either that or he is just making a smokescreen so the media/fans don't nail him over not getting a higher pick, because realistically, Burke is not getting in the top 3 without Schenn's name being included in trade talk, I can't imagine it anyway unless the other GM's are stunned.

I'm still wondering about this "favour" of a trade Burke did with the Bolts at the deadline. Perhaps that will factor in when making a deal with them.

shabbs wrote:I'm still wondering about this "favour" of a trade Burke did with the Bolts at the deadline. Perhaps that will factor in when making a deal with them.

Maybe Burkie takes Vinnie off their hands LOL

shabbs wrote:I'm still wondering about this "favour" of a trade Burke did with the Bolts at the deadline. Perhaps that will factor in when making a deal with them.

He essentially bought a pick for cash from the Bolts. That Petiot guy they got was seeing some ice time too anyway. I don't think there's any collateral deal.

The Name Dropper asserted that Burke is "not a blowhard" and that he is very "calculated" and knows the value of his assets vs. other teams assets. Essentially confirming that the lottery balls are of no consequence when Burke wants that first pick.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

shabbs wrote:I'm still wondering about this "favour" of a trade Burke did with the Bolts at the deadline. Perhaps that will factor in when making a deal with them.

He essentially bought a pick for cash from the Bolts. That Petiot guy they got was seeing some ice time too anyway. I don't think there's any collateral deal.

The Name Dropper asserted that Burke is "not a blowhard" and that he is very "calculated" and knows the value of his assets vs. other teams assets. Essentially confirming that the lottery balls are of no consequence when Burke wants that first pick.

Who/what does Burke offer for that pick? Besides Kaberle?

davetherave wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

shabbs wrote:I'm still wondering about this "favour" of a trade Burke did with the Bolts at the deadline. Perhaps that will factor in when making a deal with them.

He essentially bought a pick for cash from the Bolts. That Petiot guy they got was seeing some ice time too anyway. I don't think there's any collateral deal.

The Name Dropper asserted that Burke is "not a blowhard" and that he is very "calculated" and knows the value of his assets vs. other teams assets. Essentially confirming that the lottery balls are of no consequence when Burke wants that first pick.

Who/what does Burke offer for that pick? Besides Kaberle?

Vesa Toskala and a 7th round pick. I mean, come on, it's Brian Burke. He's a genius.

you would have to assume Schenn is part of it, and if Burke is damn stupid enough to do that, he will be hung, am sure of it. none of the rest of the roster are worth dick all.

Seriously, why are people (fans and pundits alike) making Burke out to be this big, bad, monster-genius GM...?!?!

Did I miss something?!?! Christ, the way Pierre "I Used to BE SOMEBODY" MacGuire is talking, it's like Burke is going to snag the 1st or 2nd overall simply because he COVETS it... LOL!

Truly pathetic... I stand by my original statement and I genuinely mean this: while there's a rivalry between my beloved Sens and the Leafs, Leafs fans have my sincerest sympathies as Burke is going to KILL that team even WORSE than JFJ... BOOK IT!

Never, EVER, underestimate the power of a megalomaniac!!

EDIT: Also, in reference to Burke, I'm reminded of Einstein's famous quip: "The only difference between Genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

Cronie wrote:Seriously, why are people (fans and pundits alike) making Burke out to be this big, bad, monster-genius GM...?!?!

Did I miss something?!?! Christ, the way Pierre "I Used to BE SOMEBODY" MacGuire is talking, it's like Burke is going to snag the 1st or 2nd overall simply because he COVETS it... LOL!

Truly pathetic... I stand by my original statement and I genuinely mean this: while there's a rivalry between my beloved Sens and the Leafs, Leafs fans have my sincerest sympathies as Burke is going to KILL that team even WORSE than JFJ... BOOK IT!

Never, EVER, underestimate the power of a megalomaniac!!

but if he doesn't pass out NMC/NTC's like they are candy, he will do alright lol.

Cronie wrote:Seriously, why are people (fans and pundits alike) making Burke out to be this big, bad, monster-genius GM...?!?!

Did I miss something?!?! Christ, the way Pierre "I Used to BE SOMEBODY" MacGuire is talking, it's like Burke is going to snag the 1st or 2nd overall simply because he COVETS it... LOL!

Truly pathetic... I stand by my original statement and I genuinely mean this: while there's a rivalry between my beloved Sens and the Leafs, Leafs fans have my sincerest sympathies as Burke is going to KILL that team even WORSE than JFJ... BOOK IT!

Never, EVER, underestimate the power of a megalomaniac!!

I think he'll build a competitive house of cards like he's done before and while the team is competitive, the media will marvel at how he turned things around in far less than 5-years, etc.

Buy stocks in BarfBagCo, they will have a good run.

Why does everyone have such a hard on for Schenn?

I think he's a great young defenseman, but I wouldn't build a team around him...the same way you wouldn't build a team around Anton Volchenkov, Jason Smith or Greg Zanon.

Good defensive defenseman are fantastic to have, and possibly even essential, but they don't win you championships on their own, and you don't build a team around them.

And that's all that Schenn is, a defensive defenseman. Teams need defensemen that are great going both ways to build around -- Pronger, Niedermayer, Green, Markov, Boyle, etc...

If Burke had a chance to move up to first in the draft by trading Toronto's first and Luke Schenn, he'd be a damn idiot for not doing it.

Cronie wrote:Seriously, why are people (fans and pundits alike) making Burke out to be this big, bad, monster-genius GM...?!?!

Did I miss something?!?! Christ, the way Pierre "I Used to BE SOMEBODY" MacGuire is talking, it's like Burke is going to snag the 1st or 2nd overall simply because he COVETS it... LOL!

Truly pathetic... I stand by my original statement and I genuinely mean this: while there's a rivalry between my beloved Sens and the Leafs, Leafs fans have my sincerest sympathies as Burke is going to KILL that team even WORSE than JFJ... BOOK IT!

Never, EVER, underestimate the power of a megalomaniac!!

EDIT: Also, in reference to Burke, I'm reminded of Einstein's famous quip: "The only difference between Genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."

I am not a fan of Burke, either while he was with Anaheim or now that he is in Toronto. But come on...worse than JFJ?!? That is a very bold statement. JFJ is the reason why the Leafs will not advance anywhere for a few more years. Every move he made was the wrong one. Burke may not be the saviour of the Leafs, but there is no way he is the anit-Christ that JFJ was.

PKC wrote:Why does everyone have such a hard on for Schenn?

I think he's a great young defenseman, but I wouldn't build a team around him...the same way you wouldn't build a team around Anton Volchenkov, Jason Smith or Greg Zanon.

I've secretly wondered this from the moment they took him. Franchise D-man? Perhaps, but not the be all to end all, that's for sure.

504Heater wrote:

PKC wrote:Why does everyone have such a hard on for Schenn?

I think he's a great young defenseman, but I wouldn't build a team around him...the same way you wouldn't build a team around Anton Volchenkov, Jason Smith or Greg Zanon.

I've secretly wondered this from the moment they took him. Franchise D-man? Perhaps, but not the be all to end all, that's for sure.

In Toronto he is, the media there has the ability to do that, make you a freaking superstar or a piece o' Dung, we should be loving the fact that is who they think is a franchise player.

It's Toronto's hockey karma...it's been effed up for decades...