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Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st

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31Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:40 pm

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Jordo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Urkie wrote:I don't know. I'm kind of skeptical on this one only because it wouldn't make much sense for the Flames to trade him at this point. After him they don't have much on the back end.

With that said, I would love to have Phaneuf.

Sutter should see if he can land Bouwmeester for Vandermeer, Lombardi and picks and prospects before he made such a deal.

Very interesting-

Lose Cammeleri @ 3.35, Bertuzzi @ 2, Phaneuf at 6.5
Bring in Heatley @ 7.5, and Bouwmeester @ 7...

They'd be pretty tight against the cap, but man, could you imagine a team with Kiprusoff, Iginla, Heatley, and J-Bo?

No...it would be 30 million tied up in 4 players. I couldn't see how they could compete.

Much like the Rangers next year with Gomez, Drury, Redden, Roszival and Lundqvist making a combined 32 million. That's 5 players, what are you gonna do about filling the other 15 roster spots.

Hahahahahahahaha. Last year they have a chance to squeak into the playoffs - they better make it count.

32Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:40 pm

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504Heater wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Sutter should see if he can land Bouwmeester for Vandermeer, Lombardi and picks and prospects before he made such a deal.

Make that Cammaleri, Lombardi and Regehr.

There's your untouchable player on the back end.

he he he you said back end, you're dirty lol.

33Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:41 pm

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affraid

34Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:41 pm

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504Heater wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Sutter should see if he can land Bouwmeester for Vandermeer, Lombardi and picks and prospects before he made such a deal.

Make that Cammaleri, Lombardi and Regehr.

There's your untouchable player on the back end.

As I said (edited) my original thought was the right one. Bouwmeester only makes 4.875 this year.

Vandermeer, Lombardi, picks and prospects is a fair deal for a rented Bouwmeester.

35Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:43 pm

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504Heater wrote:
RobbyJ wrote:
Cronie wrote:man oh man, Phaneuf on our blueline would be FREAKIN' SWEET!!
I'm actually not a huge Phaneuf fan. I'd much prefer Weber and I'd be willing to pay large to acquire him. I'd give up Spezza and next year's 1st round pick for Weber.

As weird as this sounds...and it sounds weird...I think Nashville politely says no.
I agree they might say no, but one can hope.

36Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:44 pm

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504Heater wrote:affraid

Suspect :lol!:

37Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:44 pm

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504Heater wrote:

No...it would be 30 million tied up in 4 players. I couldn't see how they could compete.

Much like the Rangers next year with Gomez, Drury, Redden, Roszival and Lundqvist making a combined 32 million. That's 5 players, what are you gonna do about filling the other 15 roster spots.

Hahahahahahahaha. Last year they have a chance to squeak into the playoffs - they better make it count.

I dunno 50. They still have guys up front like Rene Bourque, Glencross, Conroy, Langkow, Primeau, and have some good prospects that could step up and play like Backlund, Sutter,etc.

38Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:48 pm

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Jordo wrote:
I dunno 50. They still have guys up front like Rene Bourque, Glencross, Conroy, Langkow, Primeau, and have some good prospects that could step up and play like Backlund, Sutter,etc.

I guess...there's like zero flexibility there, but you might be able to Washington Capital it with a good goalie.

Langkow makes 4.5 million too, so that's 36.5 million of a potentially 50 million dollar cap year after next on 6 players, 14 more needed and you'd have 13.5 million to do it. Maybe, Sutter would earn his $$ big time.

39Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:11 pm

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Umm lets see, that seems like an even trade..ottawa needs defense badly and it seems like phaneuf would be perfect he can socre and he sure can hit, and he has the leadership also..but calgary already has iginla,Bertuzzi,and camellerri..so i dont see why they would need heatly but that would be a cool trade

40Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:13 pm

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What is your avatar Bravenash (if you care to share).

Daughters?

41Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:16 pm

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504Heater wrote:What is your avatar Bravenash (if you care to share).

Daughters?

I have been wondering the same thing, just never asked.

42Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:35 pm

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I don't think its for Heatley but rather Spezza. As far as I know out here in Calgary there hasn't been any discussions between the 2 teams. But I was thinking about this last night on my way back to Calgary that a Spezza and Lee for Phaneuf+ would make complete sense for both teams at the draft. I think Murray may also look at Leland Irving as a means to address our prospect goalie depth.

Calgary gets the center to play with Iginla plus a prospect while also replacing Cammie who is going elsewhere July 1. Ottawa gets the mean dman they need. Phaneuf and Spezza salaries are fairly close, and Keenan would be able to help Spezza like he did for Joiken.

The biggest problem would be our lack of #1 center. I'm guessing we might be able to sign one via free agency or personally I would like to see Murray acquire Savard out Boston as I am not certain as to who all the UFA's are this year.

43Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:57 pm

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Im so sick of speculation.

44Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:16 pm

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I question Phaneuf's defence, hockey knowledge and leadership.

45Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:18 pm

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asq2 wrote:I question Phaneuf's defence, hockey knowledge and leadership.

His defence for sure. Don't know about his HK or leadership though.

EDIT: He would provide us with a totally new and angry identity though. That can't be a bad thing.

46Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:25 pm

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But again, why would Calgary trade him? If he is so valuable, why trade him, especially for Heatley? They have forwards, and they'd become another Tampa or Ottawa. Makes no sense.

47Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:31 pm

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Dash wrote:But again, why would Calgary trade him? If he is so valuable, why trade him, especially for Heatley? They have forwards, and they'd become another Tampa or Ottawa. Makes no sense.

He's having a really rough season, and according to some Calgary fans he's not the brightest guy.

Phaneuf's situation is almost identical to Spezza's IMO. Except Phaneuf is far more physical and Spezza has far more hockey sense.

48Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st - Page 3 Empty Re: Heatley and 2nd for Phaneuf and 1st Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:32 pm

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Exactly what I was getting at...

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