Where will Spezza end up?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

TeamRenzo wrote:
He isn't the one with 1500 posts in 4 months...

I have almost 2000 posts and 504Heater is closing in on 4000. What's your point?

My point is that N4L really isn't in a position to call Spezza a loser.

How am I not? Just because he has god given tallent doesnt make him a winner.

Neely4Life wrote:How am I not? Just because he has god given tallent doesnt make him a winner.

And just because he is having a Dung year doesn't make him a loser.

He will rebound and will be a conerstone for the 2012 Stanley Cup winning Ottawa Senators!

Book it!

What team has Spezza ever been part of that has won a championship? A league title, international? Even go back to jr? He finds a way to lose.

Neely4Life wrote:What team has Spezza ever been part of that has won a championship? A league title, international? Even go back to jr? He finds a way to lose.

It's a team game dude.

You keep putting everything on Spezza's shoulders, he is still developing maybe not as quickly as you would like but he will come back as an elite player.

Maybe he is having a hard time adjsuting with the composite stick?

What does his effort have to do with a stick?

It is a team game and 1 person can effect a team enough to drag them down, especially when that player isnt held accountable for anything and is on the ice more than anyone.

1 player can make a team a loser. 1 player cant make a team a winner.

Look at Dallas. Avery is only 1 player, but things seemed to have really turned around since he left.

Is Spezza Avery, absolutly not, but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a similar effect on the Sens.

History repeats itself and Spezza's history is losing. No matter where he plays and how tallented the team is, some how, some way, the teams he plays on finds a way to lose.

Neely4Life wrote:Change the name to the Ottawa Spezza's then.

Jaques Lamaire just totally trashed the Sens and their locker room. "Neil can play for me on any team"

"There is cancer in the locker room".

He basically said the top players are the cancer in a nut shell.

Because some coach in the opposing conference really knows the inner workings and problems of another team that he hasn't even seen play in a year.

Mojo wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Change the name to the Ottawa Spezza's then.

Jaques Lamaire just totally trashed the Sens and their locker room. "Neil can play for me on any team"

"There is cancer in the locker room".

He basically said the top players are the cancer in a nut shell.

Because some coach in the opposing conference really knows the inner workings and problems of another team that he hasn't even seen play in a year.

It was Demers, but ya, most people in the game can tell when there is something wrong with a team. If you cant tell there is something wrong in there, or anyone for that matter, def something wrong with you.

Neely4Life wrote:

Mojo wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Change the name to the Ottawa Spezza's then.

Jaques Lamaire just totally trashed the Sens and their locker room. "Neil can play for me on any team"

"There is cancer in the locker room".

He basically said the top players are the cancer in a nut shell.

Because some coach in the opposing conference really knows the inner workings and problems of another team that he hasn't even seen play in a year.

It was Demers, but ya, most people in the game can tell when there is something wrong with a team. If you cant tell there is something wrong in there, or anyone for that matter, def something wrong with you.

Most people can speculate, but it doesn't mean they actually know what they are talking about. The only guys who really know are the ones in the locker room.

I would say there are a lot more people that know about the dressing room problems in Ottawa then just the players.

Neely4Life wrote:I would say there are a lot more people that know about the dressing room problems in Ottawa then just the players.

It is nothing more than speculation, only the people that enter the dressing room actually know what is going on.

Everyone knows there are problems with Ottawa, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out, we just don't know wht the problems are.

TeamRenzo wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I would say there are a lot more people that know about the dressing room problems in Ottawa then just the players.

It is nothing more than speculation, only the people that enter the dressing room actually know what is going on.

Everyone knows there are problems with Ottawa, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out, we just don't know wht the problems are.

You can eliminate a lot of them through common sense.