Dung I missed the election while camping. Did the Green Party win?
GM Hockey
LeCaptain wrote:All I know is this 2-class citizenship BS does not belong here.
This government needs to GTFO.
wprager wrote:LeCaptain wrote:All I know is this 2-class citizenship BS does not belong here.
This government needs to GTFO.
If I could have a nickel for every time someone mentions a specific fault with Harper (as in *not* general party or general politics or related to global economic issues or etc.) I think I'd still have nothing in my pocket.
Yesterday some silly folk singer (Raffi? Ravi?) was interviewed by a host who was clearly a conservative supporter (in a smug, stupid way) and he did ask him a surprisingly astute question: back in 2011 this same singer didn't have anything bad to say about the Conervatives or Harper, yet here he was writing songs about how bad they/he were, so what, specifically, happened to change his views? And, yet again, like I've heard a million times, the same non-specific accusations and reference to how bad it's been, economically.
Well, guess what, Harper and the Conservatives had nothing to do with the Greek economic calamity, or the Chinese market meltdown or the price of crude dropping or the housing market crash in the US. Canada has survived better than most. Austerity, IMO, is the way to go right now. My salary has not been going up for quite a while and everything else has -- somehow I manage. The government should do the same. Spend when your debt is under control (and not just when you have a budget surplus). The low interest rates are fooling the socialists into thinking we can start spending like a drunk sailor once again. Remember not that long ago when 30 cents on every dollar collected was spent just to service the interest on the debt? Guess what, the debt *now* is even higher than before, and these interest rates aren't going to be around forever. I'm not suggesting we should be trying to eliminate debt completely but we should be trying to at least get it to a point where we can formulate a plan for eliminating it.
Or he surrounds himself with people that help build his platform?wprager wrote:Trudeau surrounds himself with those who do not oppose his views. That does't sound like a good recipe.
Flo The Action wrote:Nice to hear so many informed and intelligent opinions in here. Now if most of canada can think like people in here we will be rid of Harper.
Oglethorpe wrote:I am having a tough time deciding this year. I have eliminated all 3 parties several times over.
In the past I have usually voted Conservative but almost a decade of power is too long for anyone and the party has lost some of the more centrist influences in John Baird, Jim Flaherty, etc.. Bill C-51 goes a little too far in my mind and needs some alterations and the ridiculous Income splitting for families is bad economic policy intended to garner votes at the cost of good governance.
The NDP has some interesting ideas but pulling out of the TPP and their Cap and Trade policies would destroy every last manufacturing job in this country and drive the GDP into negative growth. Mulcair comes off as a smug, power hungry career politician who I fear will pander to Quebec at the cost of the rest of the country.
The Liberal party has the same terrifying environmental policies as the NDP and is so urban centric that the rural population might as well not exist. They seem to flip flop between NDP and Conservative policies so much that I worry they will govern by opinion polls.
I am leaning Liberal, but don't want a majority for any of these clowns so I am in no man's land at the moment.
NEELY wrote:Flo The Action wrote:Nice to hear so many informed and intelligent opinions in here. Now if most of canada can think like people in here we will be rid of Harper.
So anyone that supports the Conservative party platform is uneducated or illogical in some way? Interesting that... almost Harper-esque.
NEELY wrote:Oglethorpe wrote:I am having a tough time deciding this year. I have eliminated all 3 parties several times over.
In the past I have usually voted Conservative but almost a decade of power is too long for anyone and the party has lost some of the more centrist influences in John Baird, Jim Flaherty, etc.. Bill C-51 goes a little too far in my mind and needs some alterations and the ridiculous Income splitting for families is bad economic policy intended to garner votes at the cost of good governance.
The NDP has some interesting ideas but pulling out of the TPP and their Cap and Trade policies would destroy every last manufacturing job in this country and drive the GDP into negative growth. Mulcair comes off as a smug, power hungry career politician who I fear will pander to Quebec at the cost of the rest of the country.
The Liberal party has the same terrifying environmental policies as the NDP and is so urban centric that the rural population might as well not exist. They seem to flip flop between NDP and Conservative policies so much that I worry they will govern by opinion polls.
I am leaning Liberal, but don't want a majority for any of these clowns so I am in no man's land at the moment.
This sums up my thoughts perfectly. A little scary actually because that's word for word what I think. I'll just add in Peter McKay as well. Harper doesn't have a ton of people behind him to push him which isn't a good thing.
Flo The Action wrote:Or he surrounds himself with people that help build his platform?wprager wrote:Trudeau surrounds himself with those who do not oppose his views. That does't sound like a good recipe.
I dare say the Conservative party does the same thing. I wish there was more opposition in the Conservative party.
NEELY wrote:Flo The Action wrote:Nice to hear so many informed and intelligent opinions in here. Now if most of canada can think like people in here we will be rid of Harper.
So anyone that supports the Conservative party platform is uneducated or illogical in some way? Interesting that... almost Harper-esque.
Ev wrote:lol I love anti Harper people.
Oglethorpe wrote:I am having a tough time deciding this year. I have eliminated all 3 parties several times over.
In the past I have usually voted Conservative but almost a decade of power is too long for anyone and the party has lost some of the more centrist influences in John Baird, Jim Flaherty, etc.. Bill C-51 goes a little too far in my mind and needs some alterations and the ridiculous Income splitting for families is bad economic policy intended to garner votes at the cost of good governance.
The NDP has some interesting ideas but pulling out of the TPP and their Cap and Trade policies would destroy every last manufacturing job in this country and drive the GDP into negative growth. Mulcair comes off as a smug, power hungry career politician who I fear will pander to Quebec at the cost of the rest of the country.
The Liberal party has the same terrifying environmental policies as the NDP and is so urban centric that the rural population might as well not exist. They seem to flip flop between NDP and Conservative policies so much that I worry they will govern by opinion polls.
I am leaning Liberal, but don't want a majority for any of these clowns so I am in no man's land at the moment.
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
|
|