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so much for my prediction

Seriously, thought Jacques Martin with his background and considering he just won the cup as an assistant could have been a hot commodity. Only place I'd see him leave for is to be head coach for another stanley cup conteder in Anaheim (Calgary didn't fit the bill). St. Louis could have been an option too.

Looks like no job for Travis Green. Calgary is rumored to be going with two other guys I've never heard of.

Man...did Perry ever not like Carlyse the first time around....what does this all mean?

Michallica wrote:so much for my prediction

Seriously, thought Jacques Martin with his background and considering he just won the cup as an assistant could have been a hot commodity.  Only place I'd see him leave for is to be head coach for another stanley cup conteder in Anaheim (Calgary didn't fit the bill).  St. Louis could have been an option too.  

Looks like no job for Travis Green.  Calgary is rumored to be going with two other guys I've never heard of.

Gulutzan is the name I keep coming across. He's always interviewing when the head coach jobs come up (at least the last couple of years). Vancouver assistant. Also worked in Dallas, I believe.

I dunno what's out there, but I guess the NHL has officially confirmed Vegas for expansion in 17/18.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f665e04a389a4bdb846216dcb14089c6/ap-source-nhl-settles-las-vegas-expansion

Quebec City is getting Cussed over because of the Canadian Dollar and it's geographic location. Yikes.

Fully agree with Vegas over Quebec for now. Quebec is a bad location and a city nobody really even knows about. Vegas will bring in a LOT more revenue and it's a lot more of a destination.

Quebec owners came out and said they didn't expect to win the bid at this time due to the weak CDN $.  Don't know if location has much to do with it right now.  That said, Vegas definitely is desired more than QC.  NHL and it's BOG have had this mandate that they want to be the first pro sports team in the Vegas area.  With talks of Raiders moving there as well, pretty sure they want a nice head start.

Ev wrote:Fully agree with Vegas over Quebec for now. Quebec is a bad location and a city nobody really even knows about. Vegas will bring in a LOT more revenue and it's a lot more of a destination.

They will sell a lot of tickets (at least initially) but they will have trouble filling the seats. "Congratulations on your winning streak! Here's a pair of tickets to the game that starts in an hour. Of course if you want to continue your hot streak, here's a free drink from our scantily-dressed waitress."

I don't see what you mean about Quebec being a bad location and a city no-one knows about. They had a team and the only reason they lost it was because the arena was too small and the loonie too low. They already have a new arena and the dollar is a lot closer to 80 cents than 70 (let alone 60).

I thought it was Quebecor that cooled off, not the NHL. Mulroney was the one who came out and mentioned the effects of the lower dollar. Of course the loonie has recovered 6-7 cents since that time, but perhaps he knows that it will either recover some more or drop down again.

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:Fully agree with Vegas over Quebec for now. Quebec is a bad location and a city nobody really even knows about. Vegas will bring in a LOT more revenue and it's a lot more of a destination.

They will sell a lot of tickets (at least initially) but they will have trouble filling the seats.  "Congratulations on your winning streak!  Here's a pair of tickets to the game that starts in an hour.  Of course if you want to continue your hot streak, here's a free drink from our scantily-dressed waitress."

I don't see what you mean about Quebec being a bad location and a city no-one knows about.  They had a team and the only reason they lost it was because the arena was too small and the loonie too low.  They already have a new arena and the dollar is a lot closer to 80 cents than 70 (let alone 60).  

I thought it was Quebecor that cooled off, not the NHL.  Mulroney was the one who came out and mentioned the effects of the lower dollar.  Of course the loonie has recovered 6-7 cents since that time, but perhaps he knows that it will either recover some more or drop down again.  

Totally. Gonna be lots of empty seats in Vegas that are paid for.

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:Fully agree with Vegas over Quebec for now. Quebec is a bad location and a city nobody really even knows about. Vegas will bring in a LOT more revenue and it's a lot more of a destination.

They will sell a lot of tickets (at least initially) but they will have trouble filling the seats.  "Congratulations on your winning streak!  Here's a pair of tickets to the game that starts in an hour.  Of course if you want to continue your hot streak, here's a free drink from our scantily-dressed waitress."

I don't see what you mean about Quebec being a bad location and a city no-one knows about.  They had a team and the only reason they lost it was because the arena was too small and the loonie too low.  They already have a new arena and the dollar is a lot closer to 80 cents than 70 (let alone 60).  

I thought it was Quebecor that cooled off, not the NHL.  Mulroney was the one who came out and mentioned the effects of the lower dollar.  Of course the loonie has recovered 6-7 cents since that time, but perhaps he knows that it will either recover some more or drop down again.  

The American fanbase is more important than Canada. Americans don't really know about Quebec compared to a city like Vegas. I don't think it matters that they fill the seats, as long as they sell them.

Vegas is a much better market than Quebec. Easy decision. There's nothing else to do in Quebec and Quebec in general is a bad province to do business in

Vegas is gonna draw a ton of fans from visiting teams.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Vegas is gonna draw a ton of fans from visiting teams.

Yeah. Amazing. When a stadium fills in with fans from other teams.

I'm unsure about the viability of Vegas in terms of big enough fan base especially if another pro team ends up moving there. But I'm sure they'll be a fair share of paid for "free tickets" flying around. So much that after the first few years the place will constantly look half empty.

This is such a fantastic move for the league. Gary Bergman is such a great commissioner because he just gets it. This is a huge opportunity to be the first team in Vegas and they will make a boatload of money. Gambling is king.

Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:Fully agree with Vegas over Quebec for now. Quebec is a bad location and a city nobody really even knows about. Vegas will bring in a LOT more revenue and it's a lot more of a destination.

They will sell a lot of tickets (at least initially) but they will have trouble filling the seats.  "Congratulations on your winning streak!  Here's a pair of tickets to the game that starts in an hour.  Of course if you want to continue your hot streak, here's a free drink from our scantily-dressed waitress."

I don't see what you mean about Quebec being a bad location and a city no-one knows about.  They had a team and the only reason they lost it was because the arena was too small and the loonie too low.  They already have a new arena and the dollar is a lot closer to 80 cents than 70 (let alone 60).  

I thought it was Quebecor that cooled off, not the NHL.  Mulroney was the one who came out and mentioned the effects of the lower dollar.  Of course the loonie has recovered 6-7 cents since that time, but perhaps he knows that it will either recover some more or drop down again.  

The American fanbase is more important than Canada. Americans don't really know about Quebec compared to a city like Vegas. I don't think it matters that they fill the seats, as long as they sell them.

Vegas is a much better market than Quebec. Easy decision. There's nothing else to do in Quebec and Quebec in general is a bad province to do business in

Wouldn't that make it a hot ticket in extention because there isn't much to do in Quebec? Sceptical go watch hockey? I mean when a city sells out junior games of over 10000 people you think they could easily get an NHL full capacity.

Also I find it comical that one puts Quebec City down that way as I'm familiar with Quebec enough to say that whatever you say about that city would equally apply to Ottawa. Both are so similar it's not even funny. If hockey cN survive in Ottawa so can it survive in QC. Especially with much deeper pocket owners like videotron. Who will own the TV deal.

Ev wrote:This is such a fantastic move for the league. Gary Bergman is such a great commissioner because he just gets it. This is a huge opportunity to be the first team in Vegas and they will make a boatload of money. Gambling is king.

I don't think they will lose money. There's too much of it around. But will they actually have full capacity crowds, butts in seat at the arena? I don't Cussing think so. Once the novelty runs out they will be tickets bought and served as giveaways.

Nothing also said about the players getting heavy gambling addictions, the coke and the Hookers. It's sin city for a reason. Whatch a few young players throw their lives away because they will be playing there.

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:This is such a fantastic move for the league. Gary Bergman is such a great commissioner because he just gets it. This is a huge opportunity to be the first team in Vegas and they will make a boatload of money. Gambling is king.

I don't think they will lose money. There's too much of it around. But will they actually have full capacity crowds, butts in seat at the arena? I don't Cussing think so. Once the novelty runs out they will be tickets bought and served as giveaways.

I disagree. Vegas is always full of pole and they will go to any sporting event of they can gamble on it. They will be full of casino patrons as well.

Flo The Action wrote:Nothing also said about the players getting heavy gambling addictions, the coke and the Hookers. It's sin city for a reason. Whatch a few young players throw their lives away because they will be playing there.

Any city has all of this. It's literally no different anywhere else now.

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:Fully agree with Vegas over Quebec for now. Quebec is a bad location and a city nobody really even knows about. Vegas will bring in a LOT more revenue and it's a lot more of a destination.

They will sell a lot of tickets (at least initially) but they will have trouble filling the seats.  "Congratulations on your winning streak!  Here's a pair of tickets to the game that starts in an hour.  Of course if you want to continue your hot streak, here's a free drink from our scantily-dressed waitress."

I don't see what you mean about Quebec being a bad location and a city no-one knows about.  They had a team and the only reason they lost it was because the arena was too small and the loonie too low.  They already have a new arena and the dollar is a lot closer to 80 cents than 70 (let alone 60).  

I thought it was Quebecor that cooled off, not the NHL.  Mulroney was the one who came out and mentioned the effects of the lower dollar.  Of course the loonie has recovered 6-7 cents since that time, but perhaps he knows that it will either recover some more or drop down again.  

The American fanbase is more important than Canada. Americans don't really know about Quebec compared to a city like Vegas. I don't think it matters that they fill the seats, as long as they sell them.

Vegas is a much better market than Quebec. Easy decision. There's nothing else to do in Quebec and Quebec in general is a bad province to do business in

Wouldn't that make it a hot ticket in extention because there isn't much to do in Quebec? Sceptical go watch hockey? I mean when a city sells out junior games of over 10000 people you think they could easily get an NHL full capacity.

Also I find it comical that one puts Quebec City down that way as I'm familiar with Quebec enough to say that whatever you say about that city would equally apply to Ottawa. Both are so similar it's not even funny. If hockey cN survive in Ottawa so can it survive in QC. Especially with much deeper pocket owners like videotron. Who will own the TV deal.

Ottawa is a much better market because it's not in the province of Quebec which is like living in a different country