Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion

He knows where it's at.

Extension signed before draft. Book it.

shabbs wrote:Extension signed before draft. Book it.

With who?

SpezDispenser wrote:He knows where it's at.

Yeah, I think when the Friedman speaks, we should listen. If he says he "expects" Spezza to be traded, that means he's hearing it from legit sources. He wouldn't "expect" something to happen just based on his own thoughts. This is the difference between the Friedman and us mere mortals.

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:He knows where it's at.

Yeah, I think when the Friedman speaks, we should listen.  If he says he "expects" Spezza to be traded, that means he's hearing it from legit sources.  He wouldn't "expect" something to happen just based on his own thoughts.  This is the difference between the Friedman and us mere mortals.

Yeah, exactly that.

All this coupled with the fact that we know P-Mac is coming back....this means we also know Spezza is out the door. It has been made as crystal clear to us as possible, without the trade actually having happened yet.

It's happening. We're not paying Spezza 50 million dollars to play here for the next 7 years, so it's happening. We can't let him walk for nothing, so it's happening. We can't risk him getting hurt and not being able to deal him at the deadline.

Etc. etc. etc.

SpezDispenser wrote:It's happening. We're not paying Spezza 50 million dollars to play here for the next 7 years, so it's happening. We can't let him walk for nothing, so it's happening. We can't risk him getting hurt and not being able to deal him at the deadline.

Etc. etc. etc.

Well, yeah. So factor all this stuff in with the comments from PMac and B-Murr and The Euge and Spezza, and you can see Spezza's on his way out.

So, y'know what, maybe the Friedman doesn't have any sources on this...it's just common sense at this point.

SpezDispenser wrote:

shabbs wrote:Extension signed before draft. Book it.

With who?

HA!

Spezza traded yet?

Ev wrote:Spezza traded yet?

Spezza and PMac to Metallurg for Iron Mike.

Please let the return be mind-blowing. Please...

Nashville is 100% the team that makes the most sense, there is no question in my mind about that one but the big question there is will Spezza waive for Nashville?  IMO he damn well should because that's the kind of place he could be somewhat of the guy (Weber and Renne run the show) and be totally invisible off the ice.

I used to think Wilson is a guy you would want on the wing on your top 2 lines but his lack of aggressiveness for his size and the way he is build to play the game makes him a huge question mark, I would try and avoid him plus they have that player in Mark Stone.  You would probably have a choice between Forsberg and Jarnkrok but not totally sure which one to pick there, you would also be getting Nashville's 1st (hopefully next year) but probably this year.  The prospect I would want would be Salomaki, not a huge guy but plays with an edge and he is kind of in the mold of a Lazar but not the high end potential either.

So basically if they could swing Spezza for Jarnkrok/Forsberg, Salomaki, and a 1st I think the Sens should be taking that and putting it to good use.

NEELY wrote:Nashville is 100% the team that makes the most sense, there is no question in my mind about that one but the big question there is will Spezza waive for Nashville?  IMO he damn well should because that's the kind of place he could be somewhat of the guy (Weber and Renne run the show) and be totally invisible off the ice.

I used to think Wilson is a guy you would want on the wing on your top 2 lines but his lack of aggressiveness for his size and the way he is build to play the game makes him a huge question mark, I would try and avoid him plus they have that player in Mark Stone.  You would probably have a choice between Forsberg and Jarnkrok but not totally sure which one to pick there, you would also be getting Nashville's 1st (hopefully next year) but probably this year.  The prospect I would want would be Salomaki, not a huge guy but plays with an edge and he is kind of in the mold of a Lazar but not the high end potential either.

So basically if they could swing Spezza for Jarnkrok/Forsberg, Salomaki, and a 1st I think the Sens should be taking that and putting it to good use.

Why not skip Solomaki and go for Jarnkrok, Forsberg and the 1st. That's a more than fair price for Spezza.

And...what wingers do the Preds have to make Spezza worthwhile? Hornqvist?...uh...someone else that I can't think of?

NEELY wrote:Nashville is 100% the team that makes the most sense, there is no question in my mind about that one but the big question there is will Spezza waive for Nashville?  IMO he damn well should because that's the kind of place he could be somewhat of the guy (Weber and Renne run the show) and be totally invisible off the ice.

I used to think Wilson is a guy you would want on the wing on your top 2 lines but his lack of aggressiveness for his size and the way he is build to play the game makes him a huge question mark, I would try and avoid him plus they have that player in Mark Stone.  You would probably have a choice between Forsberg and Jarnkrok but not totally sure which one to pick there, you would also be getting Nashville's 1st (hopefully next year) but probably this year.  The prospect I would want would be Salomaki, not a huge guy but plays with an edge and he is kind of in the mold of a Lazar but not the high end potential either.

So basically if they could swing Spezza for Jarnkrok/Forsberg, Salomaki, and a 1st I think the Sens should be taking that and putting it to good use.

That's pretty bad, you're not even getting one established player in return. I'd trade him for Fisher, Hornqvist, or one of their d-men.

Hornqvist would slip right into the Sens lineup but why would the Preds move what is really the guy they want playing with Spezza?  They wouldn't.  If there is a roster player coming back for Spezza you can bet it will be Stalberg.

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:Nashville is 100% the team that makes the most sense, there is no question in my mind about that one but the big question there is will Spezza waive for Nashville?  IMO he damn well should because that's the kind of place he could be somewhat of the guy (Weber and Renne run the show) and be totally invisible off the ice.

I used to think Wilson is a guy you would want on the wing on your top 2 lines but his lack of aggressiveness for his size and the way he is build to play the game makes him a huge question mark, I would try and avoid him plus they have that player in Mark Stone.  You would probably have a choice between Forsberg and Jarnkrok but not totally sure which one to pick there, you would also be getting Nashville's 1st (hopefully next year) but probably this year.  The prospect I would want would be Salomaki, not a huge guy but plays with an edge and he is kind of in the mold of a Lazar but not the high end potential either.

So basically if they could swing Spezza for Jarnkrok/Forsberg, Salomaki, and a 1st I think the Sens should be taking that and putting it to good use.

That's pretty bad, you're not even getting one established player in return. I'd trade him for Fisher, Hornqvist, or one of their d-men.

Del Zotto is probably the only player the Preds could part with that would not effect what they are trying to build that has some value.  Weber, Josi, Jones are not going anywhere.

I'm not sure the Sens are going to get a super established player if they make a deal with the Preds.