Bobby FING Ryan to Ottawa!!

Flo The Action wrote:question?: what's the relation with Bobby Ryan and Philadelphia? cuz listening to the his interview on the team he lives in Wyoming. not exactly near Philly or a reason why he would want to be there.
I just can't remember why we all thought he wanted to be there.

he did mentioned he was hoping he could do something special in the next couple of years... is that our timeline with him, a couple of years? i sure hope we can keep him but maybe i'm looking too much into this to soon.

Ryan is from NJ. Philly is close (and a much nicer area than Newark).

LeKing wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:question?: what's the relation with Bobby Ryan and Philadelphia? cuz listening to the his interview on the team he lives in Wyoming. not exactly near Philly or a reason why he would want to be there.
I just can't remember why we all thought he wanted to be there.

he did mentioned he was hoping he could do something special in the next couple of years... is that our timeline with him, a couple of years? i sure hope we can keep him but maybe i'm looking too much into this to soon.

He's gonna leave for Philly in 2 years you just watch.
Corey Perry couldn't wait for free agency to join Ottawa and all his awesome family here.

And a Flyer forward is going to be playing for Ottawa in October. Book it.

I really hope that signing Ryan won't be an issue long-term. That said, I loved how excited Ryan sounded to be coming here. His immediate Tweet..."look out Ottawa...I'm coming in hot". Great stuff.

LeKing wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:question?: what's the relation with Bobby Ryan and Philadelphia? cuz listening to the his interview on the team he lives in Wyoming. not exactly near Philly or a reason why he would want to be there.
I just can't remember why we all thought he wanted to be there.

he did mentioned he was hoping he could do something special in the next couple of years... is that our timeline with him, a couple of years? i sure hope we can keep him but maybe i'm looking too much into this to soon.

He's gonna leave for Philly in 2 years you just watch.
Corey Perry couldn't wait for free agency to join Ottawa and all his awesome family here.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:

LeKing wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:Does 9mm hand over his number

There's another not-too-further-away number that is now available  

Which one?

Boy that would be bittersweet to see Ryan sport #11

Is Ryan a better player (all around) than Heatley when we got him?

TheAvatar wrote:Is Ryan a better player (all around) than Heatley when we got him?

I think so, I find him more consistent and way more physical that Heater

TheAvatar wrote:Is Ryan a better player (all around) than Heatley when we got him?

Hard to say. Heatley's pedigree was much more impressive -- at 21/22 he had a 41 goal, 89 point season, playing for Atlanta, in the "Old NHL." That said his injuries prevented him from being the player he was in Atlanta for us and he relied on his incredible goal-scoring instincts and over-all incredible offensive IQ -- which, it must be said, are greater than Ryan's -- to mesh with Spezza and Alfie to become the best line of the past decade.

Ryan I think brings more of a Rick Nash-type physique and ability to the game and he can individually dominate a shift in a way Heatley couldn't. In that sense he is better "all around" but then as with Nash you question why the numbers aren't higher than they are. With Nash the reasoning was always that he was being held back in Columbus. His numbers for NYR are actually pretty good but it's too small a sample size to judge IMO. With Ryan the story from some Ducks fans has been that he didn't get a lot of prime powerplay time because that was given to Perry, Getzlaf, and Selanne. But some also mention that the effort level you see in the highlight reels isn't always there.

I guess with Ryan you have a player who could be more than Heatley (in the same way as Nash could) but who hasn't fully proven it yet. Hopefully the extra opportunities, the presence of Spezza and especially of Karlsson as a galvanizing offensive force, and of MacLean as a coach can bring him to reach that next level. If not, and he continues to play sometimes in the "Heatley" style (as a complementary player and occasional passenger) then he'll put up numbers but doesn't have quite the shot and goal-scoring instincts to be as good a player as Heatley was.

I still think the trade is worth the risk (especially after having taken Lazar as a Noesen replacement) because Ryan is just 26 and thus potentially a piece you can build around for a long time.

Heatley got those numbers in Atlanta because he got all the premium ice time. Ryan played behind Getzlaf, Perry and Sellanne. He could well have a career year playing with Spezza on the top line.

wprager wrote:

LeKing wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:question?: what's the relation with Bobby Ryan and Philadelphia? cuz listening to the his interview on the team he lives in Wyoming. not exactly near Philly or a reason why he would want to be there.
I just can't remember why we all thought he wanted to be there.

he did mentioned he was hoping he could do something special in the next couple of years... is that our timeline with him, a couple of years? i sure hope we can keep him but maybe i'm looking too much into this to soon.

He's gonna leave for Philly in 2 years you just watch.
Corey Perry couldn't wait for free agency to join Ottawa and all his awesome family here.

And a Flyer forward is going to be playing for Ottawa in October.  Book it.

He's already here, Bobby Ryan is a Flyer isn't he?

M_Christopher wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

LeKing wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:Does 9mm hand over his number

There's another not-too-further-away number that is now available  

Which one?

Boy that would be bittersweet to see Ryan sport #11

#11 will be retired, as it should be.

asq2 wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:Is Ryan a better player (all around) than Heatley when we got him?

Hard to say. Heatley's pedigree was much more impressive -- at 21/22 he had a 41 goal, 89 point season, playing for Atlanta, in the "Old NHL." That said his injuries prevented him from being the player he was in Atlanta for us and he relied on his incredible goal-scoring instincts and over-all incredible offensive IQ -- which, it must be said, are greater than Ryan's -- to mesh with Spezza and Alfie to become the best line of the past decade.

Ryan I think brings more of a Rick Nash-type physique and ability to the game and he can individually dominate a shift in a way Heatley couldn't. In that sense he is better "all around" but then as with Nash you question why the numbers aren't higher than they are. With Nash the reasoning was always that he was being held back in Columbus. His numbers for NYR are actually pretty good but it's too small a sample size to judge IMO. With Ryan the story from some Ducks fans has been that he didn't get a lot of prime powerplay time because that was given to Perry, Getzlaf, and Selanne. But some also mention that the effort level you see in the highlight reels isn't always there.

I guess with Ryan you have a player who could be more than Heatley (in the same way as Nash could) but who hasn't fully proven it yet. Hopefully the extra opportunities, the presence of Spezza and especially of Karlsson as a galvanizing offensive force, and of MacLean as a coach can bring him to reach that next level. If not, and he continues to play sometimes in the "Heatley" style (as a complementary player and occasional passenger) then he'll put up numbers but doesn't have quite the shot and goal-scoring instincts to be as good a player as Heatley was.

I still think the trade is worth the risk (especially after having taken Lazar as a Noesen replacement) because Ryan is just 26 and thus potentially a piece you can build around for a long time.

Where the f*** have you been?

If Ryan walks after two years it's because ownership nickel and dimes him instead of paying him market value to stay.

Man, people are already worrying about 2 years down the road before Ryan even plays a game. Lets see what happens when he becomes a super star in Canada before flipping out about going to Philly in 2 years when they probably won't have any cap space anyways.

I'm not worried just saying if he leaves it's because we didn't doenough to keep him here not because he has some secret plan to play for Philly.

Ok, the Sens made a solid signing in MacArthur yesterday (really solid) and traded for Ryan and they are now well above the cap floor. This thing that Melnyk won't spend is getting a little stupid now that the proof has come out that he will spend when the money is being spent smartly.

Goddamn I can't wait for the playoffs. Either the Habs, Toronto or Detroit  

NEELY wrote:Ok, the Sens made a solid signing in MacArthur yesterday (really solid) and traded for Ryan and they are now well above the cap floor.  This thing that Melnyk won't spend is getting a little stupid now that the proof has come out that he will spend when the money is being spent smartly.  

Somehow Senschirp and Travis Yost will still tell you Melnyk is a cheap basterd.

Of course you won't see in their articles that Michalek, Spezza, Cowen, Zibanejad, Greening, Ryan, Pageau... are gonna get re-signed with more $$$ in the next 2 years.

But if we overpay for a Clarkson for 7 years and then when the time comes to re-up the other players, they're gonna be front line to bash the team's management for bad cap management