GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ New Jersey Devils - 1:00pm ET - Mon. Feb. 18th, 2013

Hoags wrote:

Holy S_HIT! What a shot!

Spring loaded mofo.

LW is perfect for Silfverbeg. Cuts down the middle, shoots the laser beam. Keep him there

LeKing wrote:LW is perfect for Silfverbeg. Cuts down the middle, shoots the laser beam. Keep him there

Yeah, I think that would suit him well. In a couple of years he could be flanked by Zibanejad on the right side.

I was reading the GDT on HF for the Devils. They pretty much Dung their pants after losing this game lol

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1353427&page=17

They can always offer next years 2nd rounder as well in any kind of trade and move Bishop later or even keep him until the draft. The way he is playing he will get into 5 more games, no questions asked.

SpezDispenser wrote:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1353427&page=17

Blow it up!!!!! Man, such a bunch of freak-outs over there... but that's HFB. Knee jerk reaction to everything and uneducated/irrational comments galore... hilarious stuff.

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1353427&page=17

Blow it up!!!!! Man, such a bunch of freak-outs over there... but that's HFB. Knee jerk reaction to everything and uneducated/irrational comments galore... hilarious stuff.

It's hard to read...unless you're reading that. Then it's just

When was the last time we saw a snap shot like Silf's SO winner? I can't recall personally.

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1353427&page=17

Blow it up!!!!! Man, such a bunch of freak-outs over there... but that's HFB. Knee jerk reaction to everything and uneducated/irrational comments galore... hilarious stuff.

Might want to read the gdt from last Wednesday

Michallica wrote:

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1353427&page=17

Blow it up!!!!! Man, such a bunch of freak-outs over there... but that's HFB. Knee jerk reaction to everything and uneducated/irrational comments galore... hilarious stuff.

Might want to read the gdt from last Wednesday

Heh heh. Very different circumstances...

What no one has read the Silfverberg thread where he's either a bust or the second coming of Loui Eriksson ? http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1346065

I've always liked the Eriksson comparison. Hope it comes true.

Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Also, the price just went up on Bishop. You wanna wait? Fine, you risked the price going up - and it did. The kid looks great.

The price didn't go up much just like it didn't go down after his first start.

The asking price didn't go down, true, but the market for him got smaller. He has now shown that he can come in as a backup, not having played in a long stretch, and, aside from that early goal, settle in and play a fantastic game, earning top-star honors. So now the market for him has expanded again, and we all know that drives the price.

Hoags wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:Would Colorado consider Bishop and DaCosta? That's a high payment... but I can't believe the Leafs could have the players to get ROR. They don't want to trade Gardiner... who else do they have? Kadri?

They want a roster player(forward or D). Don't think DaCosta qualifies. Burke didn't want to trade Gardiner, not sure about Nonis. They might be more inclined to do so since they have Rielly now.

sandysensfan wrote:
That's a roster player and a high prospect. Maybe throw in a 2nd round pick from 2014.. then let it be done.

They don't need a goalie, they have no D since EJ is out (Shane O'Brien is in their top pairing).

It would cost us Wiercioch or maybe even Cowen from their POV or Silf/Zib. We're not giving up anything of value with Bishop or DaCosta, they are. Players like ROR don't hit the market very often at all. Sherman will have many choices.

Really depends on if Avalanche scouts like our prospects more than anyone else's.

For god's sake the kid hasn't proven himself yet. He's not even on his second contract, and holding out, frankly, does not endear him to me, nor does give him a chance to show off. If he was smart about it he'd sign a one-year deal. He's RFA now, is he now? Why haven't GMs fallen over each other trying to throw an offer sheet at him? You are saying Cowen (a projected top-5 pick before he got injured) or Silfverberg (payoff record-setter in the second best league) or Zibanejad (a top-10 pick)? How are we "not giving up anything of value" with Bishop? That's ludicrous. Da Costa is unproven, for sure, but he has shown very good improvement from his extended try-out last season. So long as you don't expect him to be a 1LC you'd be getting a very good complementary player.

I was not sold on O'Reilly and nothing in this discussion has done anything but make me feel any different. Usually we overvalue our own prospects, this time we are overvaluing someone else's.

He rejected a 2 year @$3.5M deal and a 5 year deal at a lower cap hit, and is reportedly seeking $5M. We thought Fisher was somewhat overpriced at $4.2M, and that's before the new CBA and the cap going down next season. Are we saying ROR is 100% going to be better than Fisher?

Speculation is he felt snubbed not getting the 'C'. Why did he think he deserved it? Not arguing whether he deserved it more, just asking if *he* deserved it without question?

If someone wanted to pay him $5M (anything from $3.4 to 5 and change), they could throw an offer sheet his way and it would cost a 1st and a 3rd. That's way less than what we are discussing here. I'll ask again, why hasn't this been done already? If the Avs match they are forced to keep him, right; could they match and suspend him? I don't think they want him in the room if the speculation mentioned above is correct.

Hoags wrote:

Martt, you mad, bro?

SpezDispenser wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:Would Colorado consider Bishop and DaCosta? That's a high payment... but I can't believe the Leafs could have the players to get ROR. They don't want to trade Gardiner... who else do they have? Kadri?

They'd want a lot more than that I think.

That's a roster player and a high prospect. Maybe throw in a 2nd round pick from 2014.. then let it be done.

I love Da Costa, but he's not a 'high prospect'. He's a guy that if the Avs are smart, they have a file on and they ask for him instead of a 3rd tacked on. It'd be Zibanejad + Wiercioch + 3rd or Da Costa - even then I think it's probably not enough, hard to say. That's at least in the ballpark.

1st and 3rd are the RFA compensation for $5M. That's it and it's not the ballpark. Zibanejad + Wiercioch is way more than a 1st (assuming we are not talking about a top-3, and we shouldn't be).