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Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups

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1Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:56 am

PTFlea

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FORWARDS:


Milan Michalek 4.3 - Jason Spezza 7.0 - Daniel Alfredsson 5.6 (with buyout)
Nick Foligno 1.2 - Peter Regin 1.0 - Bobby Butler RFA
OPEN SPOT - Z.Smith RFA - Chris Neil 2.0
OPEN SPOT - Jesse Winchester 0.750 - OPEN SPOT

Forwards: Subtotal as of February 17th: 21.85 with 3 OPEN SPOTS and 2 RFA

DEFENCE:

Sergei Gonchar 5.5 - Erik Karlsson 1.3
Filip Kuba - 3.7 - Chris Campoli RFA

David Rundblad 1.5 - Jared Cowen 1.295
Brian Lee 0.875 - Matt Carkner - 0.7

Defence: Subtotal as of February 17th: 14.87 with 1 RFA (7 D-men)

GOAL:

OPEN SPOT
Brian Elliott RFA

Goal: Subtotal as of February 17th: 0 with 1 RFA

Total: 36.72 with 4 OPEN SPOTS and 4 RFA

MORE TO COME!



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2Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:10 pm

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Aren't we paying The Chooch over 1 million clams for the upcoming season?

3Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:16 pm

tim1_2

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No offence (or is it offense), but why wouldn't you just put a link up to here:

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=23

It's the web's most awesomest salary cap website.

And yes, we're paying Cheechoo and Emery through 11/12.

4Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:28 pm

PTFlea

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SeawaySensFan wrote:Aren't we paying The Chooch over 1 million clams for the upcoming season?

True, we can add on 1.7 in buyouts. Facepalm

5Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:29 pm

PTFlea

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tim1_2 wrote:No offence (or is it offense), but why wouldn't you just put a link up to here:

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=23

It's the web's most awesomest salary cap website.

And yes, we're paying Cheechoo and Emery through 11/12.

Because soon we'll have a fair idea of who else is going + what line combos are broken + what D-men we'll want to ice + what the hell are we doing in goal.

6Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:14 am

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A quick look at the Sens cap situation for next year (players in Red = final year of contract, Green = estimated salary):

Greening (0.817) - Spezza (7.0) - Michalek (4.33) = 12.15

Silfverberg (0.900) - Turris (1.4) RFA - Alfredsson (4.875) UFA = 7.175

Condra (0.625) RFA - Z.Smith (0.700) RFA - Neil (2.0) UFA = 3.33

Foligno (2.25) - Zibanejad (1.175) - Butler (1.05) RFA = 2.23

Unsure: Daugavins, Winchester

= 23.83

Needs: One top line winger, one top 9 forward

Cowen (1.265) - Karlsson (5.5) = 6.77

Phillips (3.083) - Gonchar (5.5) = 5.5

Borowiecki (0.610) RFA - NOT FILLED = 0.610

Unsure: Kuba, Carkner, Lee

NEEDS: One 2nd pairing D-man and one bottom pairing D-man

= 15.96

Anderson (3.188)

Lehner (0.870)

= 4.06

Total:

47.14 million - roughly 16 million away from the cap.

Needs - one top line winger - usually goes for about 5-6 million and one 2nd pairing/1st pairing D-man, usually goes for 5-6 million as well.

So...add on another 12 million to be safe and we still have 4 million dollars in cap space left.


Also takes into account the Foligno re-signing - which may or may not happen and the Karlsson re-signing, which could be more, but not likely less.

Notes:

1. The summer after next season, Kyle Turris needs a new contract, which I assume is offset by Alfie leaving.

2. Chris Neil needs a new deal, but if we keep him, I doubt he'll get too big a raise - if at all.

3. Z.Smith and Erik Condra both need new deals, expect them to double their salaries

4. A lot of well timed contracts. Such as: Jared Cowen will need a new deal just as Chris Phillips' deal expires. Gonchar comes off the books the summer before.




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7Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:17 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:A quick look at the Sens cap situation for next year (players in Red = final year of contract, Green = estimated salary):

Greening (0.817) - Spezza (7.0) - Michalek (4.33) = 12.15

Silfverberg (0.900) - Turris (1.4) RFA - Alfredsson (4.875) UFA = 7.175

Condra (0.625) RFA - Z.Smith (0.700) RFA - Neil (2.0) UFA = 3.33

Foligno (2.25) - Zibanejad (1.175) - Butler (1.05) RFA = 2.23

Unsure: Daugavins, Winchester

= 23.83

Needs: One top line winger, one top 9 forward

Cowen (1.265) - Karlsson (5.5) = 6.77

NOT FILLED - Gonchar (5.5) = 5.5

Borowiecki (0.610) RFA - NOT FILLED = 0.610

Unsure: Kuba, Carkner, Lee

NEEDS: One 2nd pairing D-man and one bottom pairing D-man

= 12.88

Anderson (3.188)

Lehner (0.870)

= 4.06

Total:

44.06 million - roughly 20 million away from the cap.

Needs - one top line winger - usually goes for about 5-6 million and one 2nd pairing/1st pairing D-man, usually goes for 5-6 million as well.

So...add on another 12 million to be safe and we still have 8 million dollars in cap space left.


Also takes into account the Foligno re-signing - which may or may not happen and the Karlsson re-signing, which could be more, but not likely less.

Notes:

1. The summer after next season, Kyle Turris needs a new contract, which I assume is offset by Alfie leaving.

2. Chris Neil needs a new deal, but if we keep him, I doubt he'll get too big a raise - if at all.

3. Z.Smith and Erik Condra both need new deals, expect them to double their salaries

4. A lot of well timed contracts. Such as: Jared Cowen will need a new deal just as Chris Phillips' deal expires. Gonchar comes off the books the summer before.



Where'd Phillips go?

8Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:19 am

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Dammit!

9Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:25 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:Dammit!
Slap a $3,083,333 cap hit on there...

10Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:26 am

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shabbs wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Dammit!
Slap a $3,083,333 cap hit on there...

I did, it's not as attractive, but we still have plenty of room to add a couple of pieces if we see fit.

11Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:35 pm

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How do you justify a need for a top-9 winger when you have Foligno on the 4th line along with Zibanejad (we have decided that he is better suited to wing).


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12Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:46 pm

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wprager wrote:How do you justify a need for a top-9 winger when you have Foligno on the 4th line along with Zibanejad (we have decided that he is better suited to wing).

That's open for a lot of debate. I think Butler will be moved at the deadline this year personally, so that opens another roster spot and I think the chances are there that the Sens won't necessarily want to bank on either Silfverberg or Zibanejad being guys they lean on heavily next year.

For sure we need a top line winger - which will be very difficult to get, maybe impossible, but then comes some of the more interesting scenarios IMO, like is there a line of Greening/Smith/Condra in the future? Is Neil playing on line 4? Where will Z-Bad play? Where will Silfverberg play? Will Regin return and if so, will it be with the Sens?

In my final analysis, I left out the top 9 forward, instead electing to keep a 'place holder' in there (Butler), while spending money on a top line W (6 million) and a top pairing D-man (6 million).

13Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:16 pm

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We don't *need* a top-pairing D-man: Cowen/Karlsson is the top pairing of the future NOW. On the right side we then have Gonchar and Lee, and on the left side we have Phillips and Borowiecki. All we need is depth (... depth is all we need ... she depth you yeah, yeah, yeah...)


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14Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:15 am

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wprager wrote:We don't *need* a top-pairing D-man: Cowen/Karlsson is the top pairing of the future NOW. On the right side we then have Gonchar and Lee, and on the left side we have Phillips and Borowiecki. All we need is depth (... depth is all we need ... she depth you yeah, yeah, yeah...)

We definitely do need a top pairing d-man. This has been perhaps our biggest downfall this season. I love Karlsson and Cowen as much as anyone, but both are still REALLY young, and both are still prone to mistakes. The only legit top-pairing defenceman this team has right now is Karlsson, and he's offensively-minded. I assume Gonchar will only be worse next year, and Phillips isn't getting any younger. Yeah, we should shell out some big bucks for a d-man.

15Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Empty Re: Senators Salary Cap Chart/Lineups Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:29 am

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I think it depends on how quickly the Sens want this "re-build / re-tool" to take really. Do they grow with Cowen and Karlsson as the main D at the helm or do they bring in a legitimate top pairing D to take pressure off these two?

It really shouldn't come as a big surprise that our weak spot is D considering that not much has changed on the back end other than Karlsson is having a ridiculous offensive year and Cowen is performing a bit above expectations. Phillips has continued to struggle and the shine has worn off of Gonchar's seemingly decent start to the year as well.

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