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721The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:41 pm

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So why aren't we drafting a francophone again?

722The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:42 pm

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Big Ev wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Big Ev wrote:Not sure where that came from (saying I don't care what others think)...all I'm bringing to this thread is the comments of the HEAD of NHL Central Scoutnig, aka one of the best scouts in the World. Just showing his opinion of SC to others on the site.

If Couturier was Francophone and was developed his whole life in Quebec, I would be weary of drafting him. Snice he is frmo New Brunswick and has been a star everywhere he plays, I am not at all weary of picking him. He is a safe and great pick in my opinion.

I meant McGuire, not you. I have literally sat at OHL games with a pro scout that used to be my coach many nights in Ottawa. I've picked up a ton as well and that's what I base my opinion on. Quality of competition is a huge factor in a decision to draft a player.

I know, but I assume they factor that in when they ranked Strom 19th and SC 2nd.

Their opinions don't change much. I have found that when scouts have a hard on for someone it doesn't differ for month to month or even year to year. There is a reason why teams like Detroit, Philly, Ottawa (less Muckler's time), NJ, and Nashville draft so well.

723The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:43 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:So why aren't we drafting a francophone again?

I would draft a francophone no problem, just not out of The Q unless it was a sure bet (at least much more so than an OHL, WHL, SEL player)

724The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:44 pm

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NEELY wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:So why aren't we drafting a francophone again?

I would draft a francophone no problem, just not out of The Q unless it was a sure bet (at least much more so than an OHL, WHL, SEL player)

I think we have short memories regarding the Q. Mike Hoffman dominated that league, didn't he?

725The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:46 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:So why aren't we drafting a francophone again?

I meant born and developed in Quebec his whole life. Worded it wrong.

726The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:47 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
NEELY wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:So why aren't we drafting a francophone again?

I would draft a francophone no problem, just not out of The Q unless it was a sure bet (at least much more so than an OHL, WHL, SEL player)

I think we have short memories regarding the Q. Mike Hoffman dominated that league, didn't he?

Haha with a 5th round pick I would absolutely take a chance on a player from The Q, haha. I'm not saying they shouldnt be drafted but with a top 5 you better be damn sure he is legit and not just a product of the league he plays in, I think Couturier is more of a product. I'm not saying I am right I am just giving my opinion and I think a lot of teams are headed that way.

727The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:47 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
NEELY wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:So why aren't we drafting a francophone again?

I would draft a francophone no problem, just not out of The Q unless it was a sure bet (at least much more so than an OHL, WHL, SEL player)

I think we have short memories regarding the Q. Mike Hoffman dominated that league, didn't he?

A little different, he was a much later pick, and there weren't great expectations of him (and really, there still isn't).

728The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:49 pm

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Big Ev wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:So why aren't we drafting a francophone again?

I meant born and developed in Quebec his whole life. Worded it wrong.

It's a funny league for sure. I'm not too aware of their minor hockey structure although Cornwall (Ontario) for some reason is part of the midget draft pool for the Q.

729The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:50 pm

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NEELY wrote:Haha with a 5th round pick I would absolutely take a chance on a player from The Q, haha. I'm not saying they shouldnt be drafted but with a top 5 you better be damn sure he is legit and not just a product of the league he plays in, I think Couturier is more of a product. I'm not saying I am right I am just giving my opinion and I think a lot of teams are headed that way.

All I'm pointing out is the issue of dominating the league. Obviously it's 2 different circumstances but it's also an example of a player dominating the Q and potentially going nowhere.

730The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:56 pm

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Exactly. Corey Locke is another example.

731The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:06 pm

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Too soon to tell about Hoffman. He is getting better and still has good potential.
ALso what he's done in the Q at 19, COuturier did it better at 17. THere are tons of guys dominating the OHL who have gone nowhere too anyway.

732The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:10 pm

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marakh wrote:Too soon to tell about Hoffman. He is getting better and still has good potential.
ALso what he's done in the Q at 19, COuturier did it better at 17. THere are tons of guys dominating the OHL who have gone nowhere too anyway.

Like Corey Locke?

733The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:29 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
marakh wrote:Too soon to tell about Hoffman. He is getting better and still has good potential.
ALso what he's done in the Q at 19, COuturier did it better at 17. THere are tons of guys dominating the OHL who have gone nowhere too anyway.

Like Corey Locke?

Precisely

734The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:17 pm

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Tank Nation Games tonight:

Bruins @ Islanders
Oilers @ Red Wings
Sens @ Lightning
Devils @ Thrashers
Ducks @ Avalanche

735The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:18 pm

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shabbs wrote:Tank Nation Games tonight:

Bruins @ Oilers
Oilers @ Red Wings
Sens @ Lightning
Devils @ Thrashers
Ducks @ Avalanche

Pretty full slate of games there. Oilers play twice so a couple of wins should help.

736The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:21 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Tank Nation Games tonight:

Bruins @ Oilers
Oilers @ Red Wings
Sens @ Lightning
Devils @ Thrashers
Ducks @ Avalanche

Pretty full slate of games there. Oilers play twice so a couple of wins should help.
Heh. I fixed it as you replied....

737The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:24 pm

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shabbs wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Tank Nation Games tonight:

Bruins @ Oilers
Oilers @ Red Wings
Sens @ Lightning
Devils @ Thrashers
Ducks @ Avalanche

Pretty full slate of games there. Oilers play twice so a couple of wins should help.
Heh. I fixed it as you replied....

Or perhaps I replied as you fixed it...

Vertigo

738The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread - Page 49 Empty Re: The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:25 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Tank Nation Games tonight:

Bruins @ Oilers
Oilers @ Red Wings
Sens @ Lightning
Devils @ Thrashers
Ducks @ Avalanche

Pretty full slate of games there. Oilers play twice so a couple of wins should help.
Heh. I fixed it as you replied....

Or perhaps I replied as you fixed it...

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