The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread

I'm starting to agree with you guys, this is becoming a little worrisome. Knowing us, we'll get the 5th pick and Anderson will bolt July 1st.

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hemlock wrote:
How is TB the only option?

Only team besides Ottawa that doesn't have a #1 goalie (both goalies UFA).

Colorado as well but I'm assuming he ain't going back there.

Hoags wrote:

hemlock wrote:
How is TB the only option?

Only team besides Ottawa that doesn't have a #1 goalie (both goalies UFA).

Colorado as well but I'm assuming he ain't going back there.

Edmonton. If Detroit fizzles out in the playoffs, they could target a guy like Anderson (considering they tried for Nabokov). Phoenix could lose Bryzgalov and be in the market. Does Philly keep Bobrobobrsky(sp?)? Do the Leafs ride Reimer?

There is plenty that could happen. I think it's shortsighted to assume there are only two options for Anderson.

He's not going to sign with Edmonton, no one does. Besides they're already paying Khabiboulin, they're not paying another goalie $3M+. They're tanking hardcore next year as well.

Detroit signed Howard and that's who they're sticking with.

Phoenix can't even afford to stay in the city much less sign another goalie. Maybe Glendale will start selling bonds so they can afford Bryz or a replacement. If the shady Hulsizer deal had done through they'd have resigned Bryz by now. They'll be in Winnipeg next season, I can see all the FA lining up now.

Philly doesn't have the cap space, they're doing the "spend big $ on D, cheap goalie" approach anyway. We all saw how Holmgren is willing to (not) offer big $ to goalies this summer.

Leafs will go with Reimer, they still got Gus and a few others I think.

I should've said there are 2 realistic options for Anderson, other stuff might happen but I seriously doubt it for reasons stated above.

Hoags wrote:He's not going to sign with Edmonton, no one does. Besides they're already paying Khabiboulin, they're not paying another goalie $3M+. They're tanking hardcore next year as well.

Detroit signed Howard and that's who they're sticking with.

Phoenix can't even afford to stay in the city much less sign another goalie. Maybe Glendale will start selling bonds so they can afford Bryz or a replacement. If the shady Hulsizer deal had done through they'd have resigned Bryz by now. They'll be in Winnipeg next season, I can see all the FA lining up now.

Philly doesn't have the cap space, they're doing the "spend big $ on D, cheap goalie" approach anyway. We all saw how Holmgren is willing to (not) offer big $ to goalies this summer.

Leafs will go with Reimer, they still got Gus and a few others I think.

I should've said there are 2 realistic options for Anderson, other stuff might happen but I seriously doubt it for reasons stated above.

Forgot about Howard in Detroit. Regardless of where Phoenix's franchise is, they'll need a goaltender if Bryz doesn't resign. I don't think Winnipeg is an option for next season. That would require Bettman to admit fault, and we all know he doesn't do that.

I just can't see Anderson being down to 2 teams if he continues to play lights out for us. On July 1, he'll attract interest I would think. We'll see I suppose.

hemlock wrote:
Forgot about Howard in Detroit. Regardless of where Phoenix's franchise is, they'll need a goaltender if Bryz doesn't resign. I don't think Winnipeg is an option for next season. That would require Bettman to admit fault, and we all know he doesn't do that.

I just can't see Anderson being down to 2 teams if he continues to play lights out for us. On July 1, he'll attract interest I would think. We'll see I suppose.

If an illegal deal is the best Bettman can do to keep them in Phoenix then I do not think he will have much choice. He must surely be taking flak from other teams for blowing millions to keep the Coyotes afloat.

We'll see what happens, I am sure Anderson will draw much interest from his play but I can't see him getting many offers to his liking.

My thinking is with a baby on the way, job security is the #1 priority for him now(and it should be). Colorado only offered 2 years and that spooked him and his game fell apart. As an soon-to-be dad I can't imagine what it's like not having any job security with a baby on the way.

If Ottawa were to offer him 4 years at a good cap hit he'd sign on the spot. 3 years MIGHT, who knows. Except for Tampa I can't see any other teams offering that much, perhaps the Winnipeg Coyotes.

There isn't much of a market for goalies, especially #1 goalies.

Nabakov had to go to the KHL to get a good, long term contract, although he priced himself out of the league.

We are now 3 points out of last place...

You know what's funny, Ottawa was 6 points back of Florida at this time last week and they actually beat them heads up and are still 6 points back.

I still think Colorado is going to be very tough to catch. Ottawa is running out of games and Colorado isn't going to win just 2 or 3 games in their last 40 games... I don't think so anyways. If that actually happens they deserve the top draft pick because that's just a sad, sad state of affairs right there.

NEELY wrote:You know what's funny, Ottawa was 6 points back of Florida at this time last week and they actually beat them heads up and are still 6 points back.

I still think Colorado is going to be very tough to catch. Ottawa is running out of games and Colorado isn't going to win just 2 or 3 games in their last 40 games... I don't think so anyways. If that actually happens they deserve the top draft pick because that's just a sad, sad state of affairs right there.

40 games? That's a TON of games in hand

Oh wait...I see what you mean now.

Honestly, I question even if they had 40 games on hand whether they would win them or not. They can't be THAT bad where they will only win 1 or 2 games in their last 40 because that's basically what they are on pace for.

NEELY wrote:You know what's funny, Ottawa was 6 points back of Florida at this time last week and they actually beat them heads up and are still 6 points back.

I still think Colorado is going to be very tough to catch. Ottawa is running out of games and Colorado isn't going to win just 2 or 3 games in their last 40 games... I don't think so anyways. If that actually happens they deserve the top draft pick because that's just a sad, sad state of affairs right there.

6 back yes, but with a game in hand. That could be down to 4 with any (bad) luck. Colorado is basically 3 wins ahead of us. With the amount we've gained on them in the couple weeks since the deadline, that's not a big cushion. Odds are we'll finish behind of them, but those odds are getting smaller by the day. Like I said, the trends over the past few weeks for each team makes this a real concern.

hemlock wrote:

NEELY wrote:You know what's funny, Ottawa was 6 points back of Florida at this time last week and they actually beat them heads up and are still 6 points back.

I still think Colorado is going to be very tough to catch. Ottawa is running out of games and Colorado isn't going to win just 2 or 3 games in their last 40 games... I don't think so anyways. If that actually happens they deserve the top draft pick because that's just a sad, sad state of affairs right there.

6 back yes, but with a game in hand. That could be down to 4 with any (bad) luck. Colorado is basically 3 wins ahead of us. With the amount we've gained on them in the couple weeks since the deadline, that's not a big cushion. Odds are we'll finish behind of them, but those odds are getting smaller by the day. Like I said, the trends over the past few weeks for each team makes this a real concern.

I agree but it's still tough for me to think Colorado won't rip off two or three wins down the stretch in the next 16 games. As bad as a team is in today's NHL, I don't think there has ever been a team as bad as one or two wins in 1/2 of a season.

Looking over that chart, it seems like a foregone conclusion that EDM and COL will finish in the bottom 2, and OTT, NYI, and FLA in the bottom 3-5. The only question now is who amongst those 3 teams will get the #3 and #4 spots. I think NYI will finish ahead of us (they have been playing decent hockey for some time) and get the #5, but the other two are up in the air. What we need is for OTT and FLA to have similar records -- winning, losing, .500, whatever -- to close things out. Given that Vokoun is playing as well as Anderson is, it seems possible to me. A loss in our final game against FLA would be nice, too, tho', that's for sure.

But if you ask me, we should be prepared to finish with the #3 or #4 pick. #3 would be fantastic of course, and #4 not so fantastic.

Regardless of what happens, tho', I'm 100% behind the decision to acquire Anderson. Trading for him says to him, 'we like you, we want to see if you can be part of the solution.' It's us getting a much-needed head start on the UFA period and working towards solving the problem. If Anderson backstops us to a #4 finish and walks, so be it: if that happens, it happens in spite of the fact that BM is doing everything he can to address our #1 need and to help create a winning culture for the kids to play in. If he signs, under just about any circumstances, it is all worth it, IMO.

All that said: start McElhinney tonight!

17 pts out of 8th place, 30 possible points. I hope you guys are ready, we're going ALL THE WAY

marakh wrote:17 pts out of 8th place, 30 possible points. I hope you guys are ready, we're going ALL THE WAY

Don't give them ideas

Lottery pick and Anderson signed to a reasonable extension by July 1st please. We get our cake and eat it too.

rooneypoo wrote:Looking over that chart, it seems like a foregone conclusion that EDM and COL will finish in the bottom 2, and OTT, NYI, and FLA in the bottom 3-5. The only question now is who amongst those 3 teams will get the #3 and #4 spots. I think NYI will finish ahead of us (they have been playing decent hockey for some time) and get the #5, but the other two are up in the air. What we need is for OTT and FLA to have similar records -- winning, losing, .500, whatever -- to close things out. Given that Vokoun is playing as well as Anderson is, it seems possible to me. A loss in our final game against FLA would be nice, too, tho', that's for sure.

But if you ask me, we should be prepared to finish with the #3 or #4 pick. #3 would be fantastic of course, and #4 not so fantastic.

Regardless of what happens, tho', I'm 100% behind the decision to acquire Anderson. Trading for him says to him, 'we like you, we want to see if you can be part of the solution.' It's us getting a much-needed head start on the UFA period and working towards solving the problem. If Anderson backstops us to a #4 finish and walks, so be it: if that happens, it happens in spite of the fact that BM is doing everything he can to address our #1 need and to help create a winning culture for the kids to play in. If he signs, under just about any circumstances, it is all worth it, IMO.

All that said: start McElhinney tonight!

There's a last possibility: We win the lottery. MIght wanna start a petition to save some cash Sens fans, I heard Colin Campbell won't budge for anything under $1B (Cue Dr Evil)

#4 would be a fine pick too. Any of the Top 4 are good choices, and they could mvoe up if they really want a certain player.

Edmonton is obviosuly going to draft Larsson given to opportunity, same with Col I would think. Florida is going to lose Wiess is short order and would probably go for a guy like RNH. I think no matter the scenario except for one The Sens are going to be able to get Landeskog. That scneario being The Sens finish 4th and get bumped back to 5th.