The Official 2011 Tank Nation thread

Hoags wrote:We could have won last year if 9MM, Kuba and Kovalev were healthy and Leclaire started in goal.

No chance, and people should stop kidding themselves. You weren't stopping Crosby in that series, especially if it went to Game 7.

Big Ev wrote:

Hoags wrote:We could have won last year if 9MM, Kuba and Kovalev were healthy and Leclaire started in goal.

No chance, and people should stop kidding themselves. You weren't stopping Crosby in that series, especially if it went to Game 7.

Just out of curiosity, did you give montreal a chance when they faced the pens? Honestly?

Michallica wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Hoags wrote:We could have won last year if 9MM, Kuba and Kovalev were healthy and Leclaire started in goal.

No chance, and people should stop kidding themselves. You weren't stopping Crosby in that series, especially if it went to Game 7.

Just out of curiosity, did you give montreal a chance when they faced the pens? Honestly?

Yes, because they showed they could actually defy the odds and win a round already (and I picked them to beat the Caps in 7 games). I never thought they would beat the Penguins but I didn't count them out.

With a full lineup, I think we could have really scared the Pens, not sure we would have won, but I think we had a real chance. A shame really, because the Pens looked like they had given up in the Montreal series, so we were really close to breaking them IMO.

ok but crosby was stopped in that series in game 6....unfortunately the sens' inability to keep a 3 goal lead (still can't get over that) to the supporting cast is what killed ottawa. The sens were thoroughly licking the penguins in game 6 until pittsburgh got that first goal. then everything changed....kinda akin to the world juniors this year.

My point is that yes the senators absolutely had a shot to win that series and you really need to give them a little more credit considering the key injuries they did have. I know that's hard to do for you

Michallica wrote:ok but crosby was stopped in that series in game 6....unfortunately the sens' inability to keep a 3 goal lead (still can't get over that) to the supporting cast is what killed ottawa. The sens were thoroughly licking the penguins in game 6 until pittsburgh got that first goal. then everything changed....kinda akin to the world juniors this year.

My point is that yes the senators absolutely had a shot to win that series and you really need to give them a little more credit considering the key injuries they did have. I know that's hard to do for you

It's still hilarious that people think Kovalev and Leclaire would have made a difference. The two biggest whipping boys this season

Big Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:ok but crosby was stopped in that series in game 6....unfortunately the sens' inability to keep a 3 goal lead (still can't get over that) to the supporting cast is what killed ottawa. The sens were thoroughly licking the penguins in game 6 until pittsburgh got that first goal. then everything changed....kinda akin to the world juniors this year.

My point is that yes the senators absolutely had a shot to win that series and you really need to give them a little more credit considering the key injuries they did have. I know that's hard to do for you

It's still hilarious that people think Kovalev and Leclaire would have made a difference. The two biggest whipping boys this season

Leclaire made a difference in Game 5 didn't he?

hemlock wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:ok but crosby was stopped in that series in game 6....unfortunately the sens' inability to keep a 3 goal lead (still can't get over that) to the supporting cast is what killed ottawa. The sens were thoroughly licking the penguins in game 6 until pittsburgh got that first goal. then everything changed....kinda akin to the world juniors this year.

My point is that yes the senators absolutely had a shot to win that series and you really need to give them a little more credit considering the key injuries they did have. I know that's hard to do for you

It's still hilarious that people think Kovalev and Leclaire would have made a difference. The two biggest whipping boys this season

Leclaire made a difference in Game 5 didn't he?

He was decent but still not a guy who I want to rely on for Game 6 or 7

single-handedly stole that game. Guy has the talent just not the the strength to keep it up. that might have been his shining moment of his career.

btw EV, a healthy Michalek + solid Kuba would have made some difference, yes. Kovalev too.

maybe time to take your puke colored glasses off and stop caressing that pic of crosby.

Michallica wrote:single-handedly stole that game. Guy has the talent just not the the strength to keep it up. that might have been his shining moment of his career.

btw EV, a healthy Michalek + solid Kuba would have made some difference, yes. Kovalev too.

maybe time to take your puke colored glasses off and stop caressing that pic of crosby.

You guys can keep on believing that, I don't care. It's always the "if's" "ands" and "buts" when it comes to the Ottawa Senators.

Big Ev wrote:
You guys can keep on believing that, I don't care. It's always the "if's" "ands" and "buts" when it comes to the Ottawa Senators.

Well we are talking about "what ifs" here. We were missing top-6 forwards and a D-man, those are big losses. Pittsburgh should have swept us but we took them to game 6.

And Elliott cracked under the pressure, he couldn't handle it.

Doesn't matter man. We still lost. All most of us are saying is that the penguins were very much beatable. Again, I still can't Cussing believe we lost game 6 the way we did. Maybe chances are pens would have still won game 7, but even having this conversation means that the senators weren't a cakewalk for the penguins like you make it out to be. and Crosby hasn't done jack in game 7s so I don't really believe he would have blown us out of the water. Someone else on the penguins might have, but not crosby.

Michallica wrote:Doesn't matter man. We still lost. All most of us are saying is that the penguins were very much beatable. Again, I still can't Cussing believe we lost game 6 the way we did. Maybe chances are pens would have still won game 7, but even having this conversation means that the senators weren't a cakewalk for the penguins like you make it out to be. and Crosby hasn't done jack in game 7s so I don't really believe he would have blown us out of the water. Someone else on the penguins might have, but not crosby.

Crosby dominated the Game 7 against the Caps in 2009. I don't believe for a second that he wouldn't have stepped up against Ottawa - he was a beast virtually every shift of that series save for Game 6.

Big Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:Doesn't matter man. We still lost. All most of us are saying is that the penguins were very much beatable. Again, I still can't Cussing believe we lost game 6 the way we did. Maybe chances are pens would have still won game 7, but even having this conversation means that the senators weren't a cakewalk for the penguins like you make it out to be. and Crosby hasn't done jack in game 7s so I don't really believe he would have blown us out of the water. Someone else on the penguins might have, but not crosby.

Crosby dominated the Game 7 against the Caps in 2009. Don't believe for a second that he wouldn't have stepped up against Ottawa.

What stopped him against The Canadians?

NEELY wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:Doesn't matter man. We still lost. All most of us are saying is that the penguins were very much beatable. Again, I still can't Cussing believe we lost game 6 the way we did. Maybe chances are pens would have still won game 7, but even having this conversation means that the senators weren't a cakewalk for the penguins like you make it out to be. and Crosby hasn't done jack in game 7s so I don't really believe he would have blown us out of the water. Someone else on the penguins might have, but not crosby.

Crosby dominated the Game 7 against the Caps in 2009. Don't believe for a second that he wouldn't have stepped up against Ottawa.

What stopped him against The Canadians?

Jaroslav Halak and Hal Gill

Big Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:Doesn't matter man. We still lost. All most of us are saying is that the penguins were very much beatable. Again, I still can't Cussing believe we lost game 6 the way we did. Maybe chances are pens would have still won game 7, but even having this conversation means that the senators weren't a cakewalk for the penguins like you make it out to be. and Crosby hasn't done jack in game 7s so I don't really believe he would have blown us out of the water. Someone else on the penguins might have, but not crosby.

Crosby dominated the Game 7 against the Caps in 2009. Don't believe for a second that he wouldn't have stepped up against Ottawa.

What stopped him against The Canadians?

Jaroslav Halak and Hal Gill

Haha so? Now you are qualifying what it happened? Because A Train and Phillips have never been able to do what Hal Gill did right? The game was 4-0 before Halak made a save so stop with the Dung because I don't even think you buy it at this point.

NEELY wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:Doesn't matter man. We still lost. All most of us are saying is that the penguins were very much beatable. Again, I still can't Cussing believe we lost game 6 the way we did. Maybe chances are pens would have still won game 7, but even having this conversation means that the senators weren't a cakewalk for the penguins like you make it out to be. and Crosby hasn't done jack in game 7s so I don't really believe he would have blown us out of the water. Someone else on the penguins might have, but not crosby.

Crosby dominated the Game 7 against the Caps in 2009. Don't believe for a second that he wouldn't have stepped up against Ottawa.

What stopped him against The Canadians?

Jaroslav Halak and Hal Gill

Haha so? Now you are qualifying what it happened? Because A Train and Phillips have never been able to do what Hal Gill did right? The game was 4-0 before Halak made a save so stop with the Dung because I don't even think you buy it at this point.

Phillips and Volchenkov couldn't stop Crosby the whole series, soooooo....

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