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PTFlea


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Samsonov released from hospital after Byfuglien hit him into the boards head first.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Mark Streit is out 6 months with a torn rotator cuff and torn labrum; will require surgery http://tinyurl.com/2cbtqa7 #Isles

Wow, six months! Internal, or Souray or Redden?

It won't be Redden. Does Souray only have a year left? If so he could fit.

For some reason I'm thinking lower key guy, like Barrett Jackman or someone along those lines.

HUGE loss though, this guy is the most underrated puckmover in the league.

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Oh yeah, Streit's a great player.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Mark Streit is out 6 months with a torn rotator cuff and torn labrum; will require surgery http://tinyurl.com/2cbtqa7 #Isles

Wow, six months! Internal, or Souray or Redden?

This was a *team* scrimmage. He was injured when his own team-mate, Matt Moulson, cross-checked him.


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So.... Souray to the Isles?

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Cheechoo released from his tryout in Dallas.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Cheechoo released from his tryout in Dallas.

tough news for him. I wonder if this release is the end for him in the NHL....

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shabbs wrote:So.... Souray to the Isles?

http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/25627962573

McKenzie says no

My understanding is NYI have no interest whatsoever in Sheldon Souray, even with Streit's injury. $$$ just don't make sense.

Michallica wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Cheechoo released from his tryout in Dallas.

tough news for him. I wonder if this release is the end for him in the NHL....

I'd say it is. He'll probably go to Europe if I had to guess.

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Hoags wrote:http://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/25627962573

McKenzie says no
Yeah, saw that. No one's that desperate... yet.



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What can he offer to a KHL club, though? He's better off sticking the rest of his paychecks in a 401-K and trying to get into coaching at any level. Other than beer leagues, coaching (or scouting, I suppose) is the only way he's sticking around on hockey.


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shabbs wrote:
Yeah, saw that. No one's that desperate... yet.

That contract is insane, I can't imagine anyone ever being that desperate, not to mention no one has cap space.

Wade should've gotten himself an NMC when he signed it, or maybe Sather was smart enough to say no, considering Redden refuse to waive it for us at least twice IIRC.

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wprager wrote:What can he offer to a KHL club, though? He's better off sticking the rest of his paychecks in a 401-K and trying to get into coaching at any level. Other than beer leagues, coaching (or scouting, I suppose) is the only way he's sticking around on hockey.

Maybe not the KHL, but a finnish or swedish league may take a chance on him. I think he could land up easily in the AHL if he wants. Still a pro league, but not enough moolah

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anyone read the comments made by brain burke about Kadri? surprised they're really giving it to him in public:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Longley/2010/09/26/15483871.html

"He not anywhere near to the level we had hoped for and expected," Burke said on a conference call. "I don't know why that is, but he's running out of time.

"His comments indicate he thinks he's got a lot more time. But he's running out of time here."

Burke took it a step further by suggesting that Kadri has played his way off of the Leafs lineup and into the AHL.

"If he doesn't make our team, which right now it's looking like he's not going to, then he will start with the Marlies," Burke said. "We'll meet organizationally on that and I may get overruled, but I doubt it."

The Leafs are down to 30 bodies in camp, including 17 forwards. Of the 12 forward jobs for opening night, you can argue 10 are already spoken for including eight on the wing.

With Tyler Bozak and Mikhail Grabovski securing the top two centre spots, that leaves Kadri, John Mitchell, Christian Hanson and Tim Brent to battle for the other two positions up the middle.

Four pre-season games remain and, Kadri could still reverse his fortune. But he may need to do something special to avoid a demotion.

Privately, Leafs brass has been concerned with the former London Knight's defensive struggles and the fact that he hasn't made an impact here.

Wilson has given him every opportunity to succeed -- starting the first two games between veteran NHL wingers Colby Armstrong and Kris Versteeg -- yet Kadri was unable to score a single point.

Publicly, both Wilson and Burke haven't been shy about trying to light a fire under Kadri.

"This is not uncommon with a young player," Burke said. "There's a lot of hype, a lot of pressure on a nearly hometown kid. We have not lost faith in Nazem Kadri, but his play right now indicates he is not ready to contribute at that level."

If there is consolation for Kadri, it is that he is not alone as a training camp disappointment. While a couple of players -- notably Christian Hanson and Luca Caputi -- have stepped up, Burke says he's concerned others are letting opportunities get away.

"Guys are standing at the bus stop waiting for the bus," Burke said. "If they can't figure it out by the process of elimination, they are not paying attention."

It is easy to say that there has been too much scrutiny on Kadri the past 10 days, but it goes with the territory. He is, after all, a first-round pick and possibly the only one the team will have over a three-year span.

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I watch with amusement.

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Michallica wrote:anyone read the comments made by brain burke about Kadri? surprised they're really giving it to him in public:

Anyone really surprised ? Wilson is known for throwing players under the bus. Rookies or not.

He ran Oleg Tverdovsky out of town way back in Anaheim as well.

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This was my favorite part, because the irony of the statement is so offhanded:

"Wilson has given him every opportunity to succeed -- starting the first two games between veteran NHL wingers Colby Armstrong and Kris Versteeg -- yet Kadri was unable to score a single point."

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They're just prepping Kadri for the eventual onslaught from the Toronto media.

Burke to Kadri: "You think we're mean? Just you wait son, just you wait."

Wink

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Price to start tonight as the Habs host the Panthers... will the boo-birds be out again? We shall see...

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