Andy Sutton to Ottawa!

I think he ends up being swapped for a struggling forward who's in the same boat (similar to the Latendresse-Pouliot swap). Maybe a guy like Jack Skille?

stempniaksen wrote:I think he ends up being swapped for a struggling forward who's in the same boat (similar to the Latendresse-Pouliot swap). Maybe a guy like Jack Skille?

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. We could take a project forward, we need one of those more than a project D-man right now.

stempniaksen wrote:I think he ends up being swapped for a struggling forward who's in the same boat (similar to the Latendresse-Pouliot swap). Maybe a guy like Jack Skille?

Exact player I would have said.

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/playerrankings/regularseason/DD?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

I dont even know how they calculate that, hell, Jeff Finger is in the top 10 so take that for what it's worth.

I wouldnt put too much if any stock at all into that. I like Sutton dispite a stupid rating system.

N4L wrote:I dont even know how they calculate that, hell, Jeff Finger is in the top 10 so take that for what it's worth.

I wouldnt put too much if any stock at all into that. I like Sutton dispite a stupid rating system.

Pretty funny top 50. They love blocked shots and hits.

N4L wrote:I dont even know how they calculate that, hell, Jeff Finger is in the top 10 so take that for what it's worth.

I wouldnt put too much if any stock at all into that. I like Sutton dispite a stupid rating system.

You get 100 points for having "TOR" next to your name.

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N4L wrote:I dont even know how they calculate that, hell, Jeff Finger is in the top 10 so take that for what it's worth.

I wouldnt put too much if any stock at all into that. I like Sutton dispite a stupid rating system.

Pretty funny top 50. They love blocked shots and hits.

And don't give a wit about +/-. I know it's the Leafs, but he is still -12. Yes, I know it's (potentially) a stupid stat and all, but they list it, and they clearly ignore it. Finger has been a healthy scratch a few times, has he not? Imagine where his +/- would be if he played all the games (Robidas has played 62, to Finger's 30!)

It makes absolutely no sense. Zach Bogosian has more than double Finger's points, almost triple the hits (he's played twice as many games, but his per-game hits is higher) and more blocked shots (mind you, his shot blocking is lower per-game than Finger's). And Bogo is sitting in 19th! In twice as many games with Atlanta (whose #1 has been out most of the season) he is -13 to Finger's -12. That formula is faulty to say the least.

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stempniaksen wrote:If we get 4-5 home games in the playoffs it's worth it from Melnyk's perspective. People forget this a business.

Seriously. If Sutton and Cullen help bring in MILLIONS of dollars for Melnyk, I think he takes that over a 2nd roudner as well. You beat me to this comment.

Both of you aren't suggesting we wouldn't make the playoffs without these moves are you? Or that Cullen and Sutton will get us through an extra round of the playoffs?

Wow. These are DEPTH moves. Nothing more.

Yeah, those depth moves are awful ones. Stuart to DET. Gill to PET. Those hardly ever pan out. The big moves -- Tkachuk to ATL, Guerin to SJS -- those are the ones that work wonders for a team.

Teams that are going strong and need tweaks, not overhauls, add depth and don't tear the team apart to add it. Teams going for the long bomb and/or in need of an injection because they're fading go for the big names.

I will be totally unsurprised when Kovalchuk does next to nothing for NJ this year, in spite of all the hype.

Yep, like Colorado with Roy, and Bourque, Hossa to the Pens paid divends and brought them within inches of the Cup.

There are plenty of examples to counter your claim, not to mention you took my post out of context. I was merely responding to the claim that these two players will put us over the top, or even fetch us an extra round.

I hope you are prepared to eat those words about Kovalchuk should he prove you wrong. That's a bold statement to make.

Ah, here's me not eating my words. Tastes surprisingly delicious.

When will teams learn that big trade deadline deals almost never work?

HA HA! Nice one Dr. Poo.