Andy Sutton to Ottawa!

RobbyJ wrote:

N4L wrote:This is the first time Murray has traded his own pick, that's something different. You can't say what Murray is going to do because I dont even think he knows at thos point.

Murray has picked some beauties out of the draft and if the 2nd round is defense heavy and Murray wants a forward, why waste a 2nd rounder on a guy who should be taken in the 3rd? Murray is a draft genius and he knows what going to happen before it actually does. If Murray deals his own pick then he must not like what he sees.

People can have their opinions on certain players in this draft but if Murray and the staff dont like? Why not pick up a guy before everyone else is trying to get guys like Hamius and Seidenberg? Murray picked up a guy that will go for more tomorrow while everyone else was distracted with somone else.

I dont believe in trading draft picks like Muckler did, but that's hardly Murray's M.O. He has had 3 picks in the top 60 the last 2 years and hasnt picked anything but future NHLers, some potential stars. Hell, he has picked out guys like Grant and Peterson, who would probably be 2nd round picks at this point. Murray will get the guy he wants with the 3rd and 4th, Im confident in that.

I agree it's okay once in a while, but you have to admit when you read:

"Ottawa sends a 2nd rounder to NYI for Andy Sutton"

it brought back some Muckler moments.

marakh wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:If we get 4-5 home games in the playoffs it's worth it from Melnyk's perspective. People forget this a business.

Seriously. If Sutton and Cullen help bring in MILLIONS of dollars for Melnyk, I think he takes that over a 2nd roudner as well. You beat me to this comment.

Both of you aren't suggesting we wouldn't make the playoffs without these moves are you? Or that Cullen and Sutton will get us through an extra round of the playoffs?

Wow. These are DEPTH moves. Nothing more.

No, but the depth added and the type's of players added could very well lead to a series win or two, brining in more money for Melnyk.

Just my opinion, but against a team like Washington, and with CLouston's playing style, we'd better of playing an offensive style of game .
Sutton, Carkner, Volchie etc are good against cycling teams, but I think against a fast transition team like Washington I'd rather have a puckchecking defenseman like Philips or Karlsson on the ice.

Urkie wrote:I know some people might take issue with this but Sutton and Carkner sounds like a good idea. I have a feeling it would be a complete disaster.

cloverleaf wrote:

Urkie wrote:I know some people might take issue with this but Sutton and Carkner sounds like a good idea. I have a feeling it would be a complete disaster.

It would be a complete disaster for about 20 seconds until one of them goes to the box and the other team scores on the pp. so yeah, it is the worst idea ever. amateur hour is upon us.

cloverleaf wrote:are you Dung me? sutton is absolutely horrible. he takes himself out of position to make a hit, is atrocious in his down low coverage and is too slow to stop a fast forward coming off the wing. This is horrible. He takes the worst penalites at the worst times as well. Any that sees the good in his game, has not watched him play.

also whoever said that a carkner and sutton pairing would scare forwards...have you ever played the game? maybe at the peewee level you might have some players that are scared, but at the nhl level is is called "watch me go to the front of the net and you can have your one cross check and then you can enjoy the penalty box while my team scores on the pp". ottawa is a playoff team and forwards in the playoffs have no fear going to the net.

what an amateur comment that was to say carkner/sutton will be good for ottawa.

N4L wrote:

marakh wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:If we get 4-5 home games in the playoffs it's worth it from Melnyk's perspective. People forget this a business.

Seriously. If Sutton and Cullen help bring in MILLIONS of dollars for Melnyk, I think he takes that over a 2nd roudner as well. You beat me to this comment.

Both of you aren't suggesting we wouldn't make the playoffs without these moves are you? Or that Cullen and Sutton will get us through an extra round of the playoffs?

Wow. These are DEPTH moves. Nothing more.

No, but the depth added and the type's of players added could very well lead to a series win or two, brining in more money for Melnyk.

Just my opinion, but against a team like Washington, and with CLouston's playing style, we'd better of playing an offensive style of game .
Sutton, Carkner, Volchie etc are good against cycling teams, but I think against a fast transition team like Washington I'd rather have a puckchecking defenseman like Philips or Karlsson on the ice.

You have Campoli to step in to play that number 6 role then. If Sutton isnt working then you do that when you want some extra offense. This move gives Clouston and Murray a lot of options.

The depth in Ottawa is as good as any team in The East at this point. Injuries hit The Sens, it's not a problem.

hemlock wrote:Seriously, can Murray can a leave of absense for the month leading up to the deadline. Please?

I can't take any more of these deadlines full of "depth moves". Either don't do anything and keep your draft picks (the draft is this team's bread and butter) or make a trade for someone who will come in and actually make a difference.

In case you hadn't noticed Murray we need a PUCK MOVING DEFENCEMAN, not a redundant player with 10 Diddling points. I don't give a Dung about depth. Giving up goals isn't our biggest priority, not by a long shot.

marakh wrote:

N4L wrote:

marakh wrote:

N4L wrote:

hemlock wrote:

N4L wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:If we get 4-5 home games in the playoffs it's worth it from Melnyk's perspective. People forget this a business.

Seriously. If Sutton and Cullen help bring in MILLIONS of dollars for Melnyk, I think he takes that over a 2nd roudner as well. You beat me to this comment.

Both of you aren't suggesting we wouldn't make the playoffs without these moves are you? Or that Cullen and Sutton will get us through an extra round of the playoffs?

Wow. These are DEPTH moves. Nothing more.

No, but the depth added and the type's of players added could very well lead to a series win or two, brining in more money for Melnyk.

Just my opinion, but against a team like Washington, and with CLouston's playing style, we'd better of playing an offensive style of game .
Sutton, Carkner, Volchie etc are good against cycling teams, but I think against a fast transition team like Washington I'd rather have a puckchecking defenseman like Philips or Karlsson on the ice.

You have Campoli to step in to play that number 6 role then. If Sutton isnt working then you do that when you want some extra offense. This move gives Clouston and Murray a lot of options.

The depth in Ottawa is as good as any team in The East at this point. Injuries hit The Sens, it's not a problem.

THe question is, Is SUtton a big upgrade over Carkner? what does he do better? Because if Campoli plays, and he better be playing (not sure about Kuba and Karlsson the only pairing with offensive upside), then Carkner sits.

I guess what I don't understand is, we didn't really upgrade our defense, while losing a 2nd round pick.

SpezDispenser wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:

Urkie wrote:I know some people might take issue with this but Sutton and Carkner sounds like a good idea. I have a feeling it would be a complete disaster.

It would be a complete disaster for about 20 seconds until one of them goes to the box and the other team scores on the pp. so yeah, it is the worst idea ever. amateur hour is upon us.

We should take your word over people who have been watching him all year?

cloverleaf wrote:

Urkie wrote:I know some people might take issue with this but Sutton and Carkner sounds like a good idea. I have a feeling it would be a complete disaster.

It would be a complete disaster for about 20 seconds until one of them goes to the box and the other team scores on the pp. so yeah, it is the worst idea ever. amateur hour is upon us.

cloverleaf wrote:
nope. you should form your own opinion when you watch him play for ottawa. i already have my opinion because i have seen him play live at the sens home opener (where he was invisble at 6 foot 6) and multiple times on tv. lets leave it at that. your opinion will match mine soon enough. deal.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Says Pete LeBrun:

Nice additions by Bryan Murray in Ottawa with Andy Sutton today and Matt Cullen before the Olympics. Watch out Buffalo.

jamvan wrote:a -3 on the islanders isn't so bad This is a great pick up and our team is now set.

jamvan wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:

Urkie wrote:I know some people might take issue with this but Sutton and Carkner sounds like a good idea. I have a feeling it would be a complete disaster.

It would be a complete disaster for about 20 seconds until one of them goes to the box and the other team scores on the pp. so yeah, it is the worst idea ever. amateur hour is upon us.

a -3 on the islanders isn't so bad This is a great pick up and our team is now set.