Erik Karlsson called up Brian Lee sent back down to Bingo

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I just didn't think Lee played poorly enough to burn a year of EK's ELC. I also didn't think EK played well enough to make that happen either. That's just me though.

I would have personally preferred to lose Campoli than Lee but Campoli is on a one-way, cheap but one-way.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I just didn't think Lee played poorly enough to burn a year of EK's ELC. I also didn't think EK played well enough to make that happen either. That's just me though.

Me also, I said as much when it happened. Karlsson didn't look any better than Lee in his first game back either quite frankly.

MurderOnIce wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I just didn't think Lee played poorly enough to burn a year of EK's ELC. I also didn't think EK played well enough to make that happen either. That's just me though.

I would have personally preferred to lose Campoli than Lee but Campoli is on a one-way, cheap but one-way.

Still. Why not hang onto Lee for one more game, get A-Train back, send Lee back down and keep that year of ELC on EK. Seriously, most on here felt he wasn't playing poorly just not really standing out. Seems like a stupid move regardless of how the Org. feels about Lee.

They very well might be scratching Campoli after A Train is back. I cant see them brining Karlsson up and making him sit.

Only an imminent deal would make sense in this strange turn of events.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:
I don't think there's any funny stuff, he's just not meeting their expectations. Although Karlsson seems to getting more of a chance to shine, although he is the kind of D-man we need (assuming he plays according to potential). He hasn't been very impressive so far.

I don't think there's too much funny stuff either, but I do think that Clouston just simple doesn't like Lee as a player or a person much. It happens from time to time, but it just appears as if he doesn't really care for him. I don't know why I get that impression, but I do for sure.

Yeah Clouston doesn't seem too fond of Lee, he doesn't seem impressed by his game at all. I don't think it's a that he's a Muckler pick, I think CC went to the GM and said this guy isn't doing it for us, whereas Clouston seemed impressed by EK's play in bingo. The Sens obviously are interested in seeing how EK plays in the NHL, hopefully with Kuba once A-train comes back.

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-Karlsson
Picard-Carkner

Seems OK to me. Next year it's Cowen coming in ( I hope).

SeawaySensFan wrote:Only an imminent deal would make sense in this strange turn of events.

Not a good way to showcase Lee if he's on the chopping block by sending him down. They're not going to trade Karlsson after trading up for him in the draft.

Maybe it's Picard.

Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:
I don't think there's any funny stuff, he's just not meeting their expectations. Although Karlsson seems to getting more of a chance to shine, although he is the kind of D-man we need (assuming he plays according to potential). He hasn't been very impressive so far.

I don't think there's too much funny stuff either, but I do think that Clouston just simple doesn't like Lee as a player or a person much. It happens from time to time, but it just appears as if he doesn't really care for him. I don't know why I get that impression, but I do for sure.

Yeah Clouston doesn't seem too fond of Lee, he doesn't seem impressed by his game at all. I don't think it's a that he's a Muckler pick, I think CC went to the GM and said this guy isn't doing it for us, whereas Clouston seemed impressed by EK's play in bingo. The Sens obviously are interested in seeing how EK plays in the NHL, hopefully with Kuba once A-train comes back.

Phillips-Volchenkov
Kuba-Karlsson
Picard-Carkner

Seems OK to me. Next year it's Cowen coming in ( I hope).

SeawaySensFan wrote:Only an imminent deal would make sense in this strange turn of events.

Not a good way to showcase Lee if he's on the chopping block by sending him down. They're not going to trade Karlsson after trading up for him in the draft.

Maybe it's Picard.

I think it's be a 2-for-2 deal. Campoli and Picard for Barker and offensive prospect. Ottawa has few offensive prospects, Chicago needs defencemen (if Barker goes) and our depth at forward took a huge hit with Donovan going down so it won't be a roster forward either. Chicago needs to off-load salary and replace whatever roster player they get rid of.

Picard and Campoli together could replace Barker and solidify Chi-town's defence easily for the rest of the year for cheap. One if not both can be re-signed next year depending on who Chicago has in their system. Chicago dumps salary so they can keep their core in tact (Kane, Toews, Keith, Hossa, Seabrooke) and Ottawa needs another top-four.

I'm assuming something along these lines will happen when Volch is back which could very easily be why Karlsson was called up when he was (they thought Volch would be back earlier). Having Barker also lessens the burden if Ottawa decides not to re-sign Volch this off-season.

Phillips-Volch
Kuba-Barker
Karlsson-Carkner
Lee

This also gives Cowen a year in the minors to develop.
Pretty solid pairings if you ask me...

The wildcard in all this is Preissing, who has been waived.

SeawaySensFan wrote:The wildcard in all this is Preissing, who has been waived.

Thank you. I've been racking my brain trying to remember that guy's name. Totally unrelated to this topic but thanks for bringing him up.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Only an imminent deal would make sense in this strange turn of events.

Or they need 7 bodies to go to California and they prefer Karlsson to go over LEe.

MurderOnIce wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:
I don't think there's any funny stuff, he's just not meeting their expectations. Although Karlsson seems to getting more of a chance to shine, although he is the kind of D-man we need (assuming he plays according to potential). He hasn't been very impressive so far.

I don't think there's too much funny stuff either, but I do think that Clouston just simple doesn't like Lee as a player or a person much. It happens from time to time, but it just appears as if he doesn't really care for him. I don't know why I get that impression, but I do for sure.

Organizationally, Lee is Muckler's pick and those guys are as wanted by the new regime as an STD...

Yeah, I actually 100% believe that.

SpezDispenser wrote:

MurderOnIce wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:
I don't think there's any funny stuff, he's just not meeting their expectations. Although Karlsson seems to getting more of a chance to shine, although he is the kind of D-man we need (assuming he plays according to potential). He hasn't been very impressive so far.

I don't think there's too much funny stuff either, but I do think that Clouston just simple doesn't like Lee as a player or a person much. It happens from time to time, but it just appears as if he doesn't really care for him. I don't know why I get that impression, but I do for sure.

Organizationally, Lee is Muckler's pick and those guys are as wanted by the new regime as an STD...

Yeah, I actually 100% believe that.

Also, Lee was picked because he would be the "next Redden" and we know how BM felt about the last Redden he had to deal with.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Still. Why not hang onto Lee for one more game, get A-Train back, send Lee back down and keep that year of ELC on EK. Seriously, most on here felt he wasn't playing poorly just not really standing out. Seems like a stupid move regardless of how the Org. feels about Lee.

The timing was all wrong for sure. I guess they thought they'd have A-Train back for sure, but even then, why not just wait it out? Send Lee to Bingo when A-Train comes back, keep Karlsson in Bingo and wait to see what shakes out. I don't understand a lot of this, especially the timing. Then I thought a small deal was coming, but no one's really doing too much in terms of trade.

Very bizarre the whole Karlsson call-up, Lee demotion thing.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Also, Lee was picked because he would be the "next Redden" and we know how BM felt about the last Redden he had to deal with.

Yeah, and also, he couldn't be farther from a 'good' younger version of Redden. He's okay, but nothing like that.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Still. Why not hang onto Lee for one more game, get A-Train back, send Lee back down and keep that year of ELC on EK. Seriously, most on here felt he wasn't playing poorly just not really standing out. Seems like a stupid move regardless of how the Org. feels about Lee.

The timing was all wrong for sure. I guess they thought they'd have A-Train back for sure, but even then, why not just wait it out? Send Lee to Bingo when A-Train comes back, keep Karlsson in Bingo and wait to see what shakes out. I don't understand a lot of this, especially the timing. Then I thought a small deal was coming, but no one's really doing too much in terms of trade.

Very bizarre the whole Karlsson call-up, Lee demotion thing.

That's what I figured from the get-go.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
That's what I figured from the get-go.

I guess they figure that Karlsson's no better or worse than Lee right now and he adds the element of offence? That's all I can figure out.

Lee's defence in the NHL is, at this moment, better than Karlsson's.

EK is going to have to produce.

I still think forcing a Campoli - Karlsson is maybe the worst coaching move Clouston's made in his tenure here.