THN: Sens risk alienating Karlsson

N4L wrote:Anyways point being about Karlsson is he gave up a lot more after being convinced by Murray to leave Sweden.

N4L wrote:Are you saying a 19 year old kid is nieve? I dont believe it.

N4L wrote:Point being is Karlsson was fine with staying in Sweden and playing there while developing, instead he is told there is a spot waiting for him, while he makes the team he is told he isnt going anywhere, and while he is here he is basically put in a spot to fail, not succeed.

Filatov was 100% prepared to come over to NA to playin in either The AHL or NHL, Karlsson wasnt. He was convinced to come over by Murray.

I get why it was done but Karlsson absolutely got the shaft here.

As for comparing him to Heatley...? WTF?! Did he report to Bingo, yes. Has he done everything that was asked of him? Yes. Thats a stupid comparisson. I would be furious too if that's the position I was put in by Murray and The Sens. Literally, the kid is 19 years old with no support off the ice at this point and probably feels pretty helpless at this point. It's not his country (niether Canada or The States), he has no family what so ever, and feels a little betrayed by Ottawa and Murray.

The fact he is still here says more about him than anything because he had every reason on the planet to go back to Sweden and I would have 100% understood and agreed if he did. He's not even an adult and people are talking like he's a primadonna.

The actual level of play isnt going to hurt his development but a lot of off ice stuff could.

rooneypoo wrote:

N4L wrote:Point being is Karlsson was fine with staying in Sweden and playing there while developing, instead he is told there is a spot waiting for him, while he makes the team he is told he isnt going anywhere, and while he is here he is basically put in a spot to fail, not succeed.

Filatov was 100% prepared to come over to NA to playin in either The AHL or NHL, Karlsson wasnt. He was convinced to come over by Murray.

I get why it was done but Karlsson absolutely got the shaft here.

As for comparing him to Heatley...? WTF?! Did he report to Bingo, yes. Has he done everything that was asked of him? Yes. Thats a stupid comparisson. I would be furious too if that's the position I was put in by Murray and The Sens. Literally, the kid is 19 years old with no support off the ice at this point and probably feels pretty helpless at this point. It's not his country (niether Canada or The States), he has no family what so ever, and feels a little betrayed by Ottawa and Murray.

The fact he is still here says more about him than anything because he had every reason on the planet to go back to Sweden and I would have 100% understood and agreed if he did. He's not even an adult and people are talking like he's a primadonna.

The actual level of play isnt going to hurt his development but a lot of off ice stuff could.

That kind of assumes the key point in question, tho'. I agree, the 'he's staying' message the week before really looks bad on us now, but I really don't think anyone guaranteed him a spot in the NHL -- at least we haven't been given the evidence to suggest that that was the case.

Anyway, we have no idea how much time BM and Karlsson discussed the possibility of him making or not making the team, and/or whether Bingo was mentioned as a real possibility. For all we know, it was talked about extensively. Surely everyone knew the score with the 9 games thing.

I get the culture / support thing you (and the article author) mention, but it does take at its base the assumption that Karlsson was given guarantees that he'd be on the team -- which I really doubt is the case, and if it were, where's the evidence to support the assertion?

SpezDispenser wrote:I never want to hear the names Heatley and Karlsson in the same sentence again. Really.

wprager wrote:Yeah, I know, and I don't disagree. Still would have been nice to see some of it, since he didn't exactly light it up on the score sheet. I had such high hopes for the kids this year -- and you, Neely, are partially to blame.

Bu ti'll survive and soldier on. What else can you do, eh?