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Bertuzzi a Wing again

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16Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:10 pm

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TSN just made it official pending a physical.

Bad move Detroit.

17Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:12 pm

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Sens19 wrote:I really thought Abdelkader would be full time this season but with the recent signings lately, it doesn't seem so. There were much better choices for the Red Wings than Bert but I guess they know better


Wow, so he lost his spot?? That's a really silly move on Detroit's part, they should be thinking of their future. Very odd move.

18Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:14 pm

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Hudler had a career year this past season, but he'd never achieved that before. Is it because Detroit had some injuries and saw more playing time? Or is it because he's a part of a run and gun top 9 that can fire at will?

If Hudler's loss represents problems for Detroit, I would assume they're in for a rough year. If they can get Bertuzzi under contract, there's no reason he can't duplicate his season last year - or better if he assumes a top 6 role. He'll be another Holdstrom for the Wings..as if having one isn't good enough.

That said, I definitely see some of the shine coming off the Wings. Rafalski and Lidstrom both got the cacka kicked out of them in the playoffs. Their goaltending will always be questioned - fairly or unfairly. No President's Trophy this year I don't think. Make way for the Hawks.

19Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:16 pm

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^ For sure.

20Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:27 pm

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Dumb move; they're done. Not making the playoffs this season. :**:

21Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:29 pm

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What is old is new again. The gave up Matthias for him, and all they got out of him was 8 games. Guess they figure they should get at least 74 to make things right.

22Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:35 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:Hudler had a career year this past season, but he'd never achieved that before. Is it because Detroit had some injuries and saw more playing time? Or is it because he's a part of a run and gun top 9 that can fire at will?

If Hudler's loss represents problems for Detroit, I would assume they're in for a rough year. If they can get Bertuzzi under contract, there's no reason he can't duplicate his season last year - or better if he assumes a top 6 role. He'll be another Holdstrom for the Wings..as if having one isn't good enough.

That said, I definitely see some of the shine coming off the Wings. Rafalski and Lidstrom both got the cacka kicked out of them in the playoffs. Their goaltending will always be questioned - fairly or unfairly. No President's Trophy this year I don't think. Make way for the Hawks.

Which serves to answer your quasi question from the other thread, if you get my drift.


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23Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:37 pm

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TheAvatar wrote:Dumb move; they're done. Not making the playoffs this season. :**:

Are you being serious? Seriously? Detroit will still be in.

By the way, I never did get an explanation for that smiley. Is it an angel losing its wings? It can't be, but that's what it looks like to me.


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24Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:46 pm

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That's what it is (the angel that is; the wings will still make the playoffs though)

Cheers!
TA

25Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:14 pm

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The Wings will definitely make the playoffs, it's the division title they may lose. And only may lose it

http://sens19-hockeytalk.blogspot.com/

26Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:47 pm

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shabbs wrote:
cas wrote:More likely Abdelkader. Not a fan, but meh.
Is he expected to make the roster? Helm also has a two-way...

Well Helm played every game in the playoffs this year and Abdelkader played only ten. Other than that, Helm is 100% NHL ready. Regardless of who else takes up a spot on the Wings, Helm will be there. Its not in question in the least.

27Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:05 pm

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FireOnIce wrote:This can't be true. Detroit has a rich history of making the clever decision not the stupid one.

Bertuzzi, Eaves and Williams added together don't even make up for the loss of Hudler on the scoresheet; let alone if you add up the 3 salaries, they could have had Hudler for a tad more. By adding Bertuzzi to Eaves and Williams, the only accomplishment made by Detroit is to limit the ice time of Ville Leino and send Abdelkader down to Grand Rapids. Abdelkader is a better and more effective player than Bertuzzi right now, no ifs ands or buts. Watching any of the Wings games last year (with Abdelkader in the lineup) will tell you that.

If true, this is a poor move by Detroit, who has still yet to replace Hossa as well by the way.

Strange moves coming from Detroit this off-season for once.

Was that that one game he played in the regular season..? Or the other one? :KJK:

Whether he is truly NHL ready is debatable, but its far from a sure thing.

Leino (although I think highly of him) simply isn't what the Wings standards dictate as "ready." I highly doubt he'll have a full time role on the team, but he'll be ready for 2010-11 while still getting some quality time in 09-10.

I think the logic is pretty straight forward on this series of signings: Detroit has the ability to play tight and shift at will into a run-and-gun system...They have an outstanding defense and a goalie who is (generally) reliable - making the right saves, at the right time.

By signing these three 35-50 point players for cheap, they've avoided handcuffing themselves to lengthy contracts for mediocre players; yet, they've also re-up'd their top-9 with players who can put the puck in the net. Having Holmstrom, Franzen, and Bertuzzi allows them to have one power forward on each line. Having Cleary, Filppula, and Williams allows them to fill out the top-6 with reasonable talent, while the contracts of Zetterberg and Datsyuk remain as massive discounts.

In retrospect, the Eaves signing was great. Not only does he still have decent upside and potential, but his frequent injury allows them to frequently promote their not-quite-there-yet forward prospects.

As usual, Ken Holland is putting on a clinic on how to successfully run a franchise - despite the restrictions created by the cap.

28Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:10 am

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Signing an often-inured player to ensure periodic room in the roster to train the youngsters? Wow. How did Burke not think of it first?

Seriously, though, Eaves was signed for cheap. Bertuzzi is $1.5M -- not a lot, but not peanuts either.


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29Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:42 am

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I have to agree. Signing an injury-prone player so that he will get injured and allow call-ups makes absolutely no sense. You don't sign players to not play.

30Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:37 pm

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So, Holland was on The Fan 590 today and they asked him what was up with this signing. Holland basically said they were looking for a big body who would be hard to move off the puck, give them some added toughness and could chip in 15+ goals. He's expecting the three recent signings (Bert, Williams and Eaves) to be able to put in 15+ goals. He even suggested that either Bert or Williams could find themselves on the 2nd line.

We shall see...

31Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:26 pm

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wprager wrote:Signing an often-inured player to ensure periodic room in the roster to train the youngsters? Wow. How did Burke not think of it first?

Seriously, though, Eaves was signed for cheap. Bertuzzi is $1.5M -- not a lot, but not peanuts either.

Well I doubt that was his intention, but it certainly works in their favour.

Bertuzzi at 1.5 is pretty cheap Imo. Catch him in a good year and in the right system and he's good for 50 points, still.

32Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:15 pm

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wprager wrote:Signing an often-inured player to ensure periodic room in the roster to train the youngsters? Wow. How did Burke not think of it first?

Seriously, though, Eaves was signed for cheap. Bertuzzi is $1.5M -- not a lot, but not peanuts either.

Obviously, Burke told Holland to do this.
Isn't that how everything happens in the NHL?

33Bertuzzi a Wing again - Page 2 Empty Re: Bertuzzi a Wing again Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:14 pm

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Acrobat wrote:
wprager wrote:Signing an often-inured player to ensure periodic room in the roster to train the youngsters? Wow. How did Burke not think of it first?

Seriously, though, Eaves was signed for cheap. Bertuzzi is $1.5M -- not a lot, but not peanuts either.

Obviously, Burke told Holland to do this.
Isn't that how everything happens in the NHL?
This shall now be coined... the BurkeRosterRoomMakerMove

Or the BRRMM...

HA HA!

Holy moly we need some real news...

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