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Sens sign Kovalev!!

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181Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:00 pm

wprager


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Neely4Life wrote:
wprager wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:If he goes to Edmonton I'll even give odds.

Depends on a lot of factors:

1. Do you mean goals or total points?
2. Does Heatley play in San Jose or Edmonton (or Phoenix).
3. Does Kovalev get feeds from Spezza or Fisher -- that one is a huge difference.

If Heatley goes to Edmonton, Kovalev will have more goals and points.

Hmm, could be, but you seem intent on putting him on with Fisher. Fisher is not as good a set-up man as Spezza nor as good at finishing as either Spezza or Alfie. He's great at other things so I really am not bashing Mike at all. Just that if Kovalev plays on the 2nd line he will not get nearly as many points (unless the PP really clicks). It would be close.

182Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:01 pm

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wprager wrote:6th Sens posted this clip of Kovalev on Tucker. I believe he got a penalty for it but man, was it worth it!


Haha! At least someone got that POS... I'm so glad that guy is in the west now, man he is the guy I hate by far the most in the NHL.... By far! 🇬🇬

183Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:01 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:Uhhhhhh, thats REALLY old news.

thanks there Fonzie

184Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:02 pm

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wprager wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:
wprager wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:If he goes to Edmonton I'll even give odds.

Depends on a lot of factors:

1. Do you mean goals or total points?
2. Does Heatley play in San Jose or Edmonton (or Phoenix).
3. Does Kovalev get feeds from Spezza or Fisher -- that one is a huge difference.

If Heatley goes to Edmonton, Kovalev will have more goals and points.

Hmm, could be, but you seem intent on putting him on with Fisher. Fisher is not as good a set-up man as Spezza nor as good at finishing as either Spezza or Alfie. He's great at other things so I really am not bashing Mike at all. Just that if Kovalev plays on the 2nd line he will not get nearly as many points (unless the PP really clicks). It would be close.

Depends, but he can do a lot on his own. On the PP alone, I think he will have close to 40 points with Spezza, Alfi, Karlsson, Campoli, Kuba, who ever is with him, that might be an absolute beast of a PP.

185Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:04 pm

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The other way to look at it is that he may be the one that can open things up for Fisher - perhaps creating the room for Fish to get a few steps closer in before unleashing that poorly-aimed rifle of a wrist-shot.

(not saying that's the way I'd do it, just throwing it out there)

EDIT: and that Fisher may be the one to get in there quickly to dig for the puck on shoot-ins, getting it to Kovalev so he can work his magic.



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186Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:05 pm

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wprager wrote:
That Eklund, he's such a joker. Heatley is already signed. He must have forgotten. Just like Dany did.

Laughing3

187Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:09 pm

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I love that picture of Tucker eating the ice after he attempted to boar Phillips. Chris got the better of that deal, Tucker ended up upside-down with his face planted right in the ice, and he also received a penalty on the play. They had a poster of that picture at the SensPlex with text describing the event. Unfortunately I can't seem to google for it now.

188Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:12 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:
Depends, but he can do a lot on his own. On the PP alone, I think he will have close to 40 points with Spezza, Alfi, Karlsson, Campoli, Kuba, who ever is with him, that might be an absolute beast of a PP.

Here's a thought. One way to combat Burke's goonery is to have the best PP in the East. With Karlsson, Campoli and Shannon (I really like him on the point) and now with Kovalev we just might have that now.

189Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:15 pm

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Yup, you have 3 guys who can dish and shoot up front, 2 guys on the point with cannon's who can pass Good luck with that Toronto. Take all the penalties you want.

190Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:16 pm

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I briefly mentioned this earlier, but what if we keep both Heatley and Kovalev? In that case I'd have no problem putting Kovalev on the second line. I still think that Kovalev could really thrive with Spezza/Alfredsson, maybe even have a career year. But if we have two game breakers then we would be very, very tough to play against.

191Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:20 pm

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Only problem (other than getting around the egos) would be cap issues. Even without J. Smith, there is only $600K left for injuries, call-ups, etc. From what I recall, Murray prefers to have around $1.5M

192Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:31 pm

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when is intro press con. ?

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193Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:37 pm

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Acrobat wrote:Only problem (other than getting around the egos) would be cap issues. Even without J. Smith, there is only $600K left for injuries, call-ups, etc. From what I recall, Murray prefers to have around $1.5M

Losing Smith + Auld + Schubert, and re-signing Elliott for about $1 mil, would open up some space. Bring us to about $1.5 mil under the cap, by my estimate.

Nice to dream, but I can't not see a Heatley deal happening in the near future.

194Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:06 pm

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rooneypoo wrote:
Losing Smith + Auld + Schubert, and re-signing Elliott for about $1 mil, would open up some space. Bring us to about $1.5 mil under the cap, by my estimate.

Nice to dream, but I can't not see a Heatley deal happening in the near future.

I tell ya, can you imagine the Sens' forwards if Heatley isn't moved?

Heatley - Spezza - Alfredsson
Foligno - Fisher - Kovalev

I love Shannon - probably one of my favourite players - but that is sick.

I wish SJ would give us Marleau for Heatley - or Clowe and Vlasic (ha ha). That would make the transition complete. From Dung to good.

195Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:07 pm

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wprager wrote:I briefly mentioned this earlier, but what if we keep both Heatley and Kovalev? In that case I'd have no problem putting Kovalev on the second line. I still think that Kovalev could really thrive with Spezza/Alfredsson, maybe even have a career year. But if we have two game breakers then we would be very, very tough to play against.

Kovalev could thrive with a broom and a carrot if he wants to.

196Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:14 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:
wprager wrote:I briefly mentioned this earlier, but what if we keep both Heatley and Kovalev? In that case I'd have no problem putting Kovalev on the second line. I still think that Kovalev could really thrive with Spezza/Alfredsson, maybe even have a career year. But if we have two game breakers then we would be very, very tough to play against.

Kovalev could thrive with a broom and a carrot if he wants to.

The broom I'm OK with, but the carrot? I guess it depends on the carrot's cap hit.

197Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:18 pm

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Its true though. The guy I want to see beside Kovy is Regin. I think that may very well be a match made in Heaven.

198Sens sign Kovalev!! - Page 13 Empty Re: Sens sign Kovalev!! Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:19 pm

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I am stunned that everyone likes this news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNK-5SuB5x8

IF good Alexei shows up, then this is good news. But when you spend ten million dollars on a player, the word IF should be nowhere to be found.

I'll hold off on my judgment until the end of next season, but I'm not so confident.

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