Roy meets with Avalanche president

Wow, lol, what a way to find out you might be fired... on tSN saying that your possible replacement has been allegedly offered your job.

If Roy and Billington do take over in Denver, and Ray Bourque moves into the coaching job with the Remparts, it would be fair to say Colorado is committing to a thorough overhaul of the organization.

One could then expect Joe Sakic and Adam Foote to be part of the braintrust there as they transition out of their playing careers.

In that case, I wouldn't be too worried about Granato, who was really only keeping the seat warm. He'd be reassigned within the new staff.

Why does Granato even bother stay with that organization?
The job stability?

Acrobat wrote:Why does Granato even bother to stay with that organization?
The job stability?

Isn't that a good reason? Or should he become an analyst on TSN?

I think I saw on TSN/Sportsnet ticker Roy denied the rumors... though would he acknowledge any truth to them?

Roy denies Avs' offer

Associated Press, May 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM EDT

DENVER — Hall of Fame goaltender Patrick Roy denied being offered the Colorado Avalanche's coaching job, a position currently held by Tony Granato.

The Denver Post reported Monday that Roy had received an offer and was mulling it over. The Avalanche declined comment on the report, which cited anonymous league sources.

Later Monday, a spokeswoman for the junior league club Roy co-owns and coaches told The Associated Press that Roy had not received an offer from his old NHL team.

"I talked to him this morning and he said all those reports are speculation, he never received a formal offer," said Nicole Bouchard, director of media relations for the Quebec Remparts of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League.

Roy is also general manager of the Remparts.

Bouchard said Roy wasn't available for interviews. Earlier, he told French-Language network Radio Canada: "I never received an offer ... but anyway, I'm not commenting."

Roy met with Avs president Pierre Lacroix in Denver on May 7, about three weeks after general manager Francois Giguere was fired following Colorado's last-place finish in the West. Colorado's 32-45-5 mark was the franchise's worst since moving from Quebec to Denver in 1995.

Although the team wouldn't say what the meeting was about, it was the first indication that Granato's job might be in danger. The team hasn't commented on Granato's status since then.

Granato has two years left on his contract.

Roy won Stanley Cup titles in Colorado in 1996 and 2001 after a standout career with the Montreal Canadiens. He retired in 2003 and was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2006.

He coached his two sons with the Remparts last season, when all three drew suspensions for ugly incidents. Frederick Roy got 15 games for high-sticking eight months after his brother, Jonathan, received a seven-game penalty for participating in an on-ice fight. That fight also resulted in a five-game suspension for Patrick Roy for encouraging his son during the fisticuffs.

The incident prompted Quebec's sports minister to create a committee to address the issue of gratuitous violence in hockey.

Former Colorado coach Joel Quenneville, in Detroit for the Chicago Blackhawks' Game 2 of the Western Conference Finals against the Red Wings, said Roy has a great hockey IQ.

"Patrick, you know, he's one of those players that was pretty amazing the time I was around him," Quenneville said. "... Not too many guys have that level of thinking as players. It's almost an elite level of the knowledge of the game, the technical part of it. He's done very well for himself with his organization in Quebec. I know how competitive it is.

"You know, I haven't been really around him as a coach. You got to give him some kudos for the job he's done there."

The Avalanche, whose 199 goals were the fewest in the NHL last season, have salary cap issues facing their next general manager and whoever coaches them next year.

The team has only about $10 million to $12 million in which to fill out the roster because 14 players have contracts that account for nearly $44 million next year. That doesn't include captain Joe Sakic, who spent most of the year on the injured list, and either goaltender, Peter Budaj and Andrew Raycroft, who are unsigned for next season.

I think putting Roy behind the bench would be a mistake personally. Give him a job in the Organisation but do a better job picking your coach.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I think putting Roy behind the bench would be a mistake personally. Give him a job in the Organisation but do a better job picking your coach.

Former Avs coach Joel Quenneville, the esteemed Scotty Bowman, and Stanley Cup winner Jacques Demers, all seem to disagree with you...

davetherave wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I think putting Roy behind the bench would be a mistake personally. Give him a job in the Organisation but do a better job picking your coach.

Former Avs coach Joel Quenneville, the esteemed Scotty Bowman, and Stanley Cup winner Jacques Demers, all seem to disagree with you...

All these people think Roy would be a perfect coach for the Avs??

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

davetherave wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I think putting Roy behind the bench would be a mistake personally. Give him a job in the Organisation but do a better job picking your coach.

Former Avs coach Joel Quenneville, the esteemed Scotty Bowman, and Stanley Cup winner Jacques Demers, all seem to disagree with you...

All these people think Roy would be a perfect coach for the Avs??

If you review the previous posts in this thread, each one of these gentlemen have stated they believe Mr Roy is eminently qualified.

davetherave wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

davetherave wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I think putting Roy behind the bench would be a mistake personally. Give him a job in the Organisation but do a better job picking your coach.

Former Avs coach Joel Quenneville, the esteemed Scotty Bowman, and Stanley Cup winner Jacques Demers, all seem to disagree with you...

All these people think Roy would be a perfect coach for the Avs??

If you review the previous posts in this thread, each one of these gentlemen have stated they believe Mr Roy is eminently qualified.

That kind of surprises me but hey what the heck. I personally think he's too much of a loose cannon and will end up in a TSN top ten Coaches meltdown video clip.

Have they hired a GM yet? This thing has "mess" written all over it.

They've got no GM. When a new GM comes in, is there any way he keeps Granato? A new GM will want his own pick, and who's to say he'll be OK with a (potential) head case like St. Patrick? I know if *I* was the GM I certainly would not want a franchise hero with no NHL coaching experience to be the head guy.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that it would be a huge mistake to interview Roy for the HC position, unless they already have a guy and he's on board with Roy.

The other possibility, of course, is that he was there for the GM's position, or some other management role.

wprager wrote:They've got no GM. When a new GM comes in, is there any way he keeps Granato? A new GM will want his own pick, and who's to say he'll be OK with a (potential) head case like St. Patrick? I know if *I* was the GM I certainly would not want a franchise hero with no NHL coaching experience to be the head guy.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that it would be a huge mistake to interview Roy for the HC position, unless they already have a guy and he's on board with Roy.

The other possibility, of course, is that he was there for the GM's position, or some other management role.

I agree 100%. The first thing I'd do as the new GM is to dismiss the Roy as HC talk. Forget it, this is a young team that needs a Joel Quennville type of coach. Not Hartley, but Quinn, someone like that. Not someone who has zero experience as an NHL head coach. No way.

504Heater wrote:

wprager wrote:They've got no GM. When a new GM comes in, is there any way he keeps Granato? A new GM will want his own pick, and who's to say he'll be OK with a (potential) head case like St. Patrick? I know if *I* was the GM I certainly would not want a franchise hero with no NHL coaching experience to be the head guy.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that it would be a huge mistake to interview Roy for the HC position, unless they already have a guy and he's on board with Roy.

The other possibility, of course, is that he was there for the GM's position, or some other management role.

I agree 100%. The first thing I'd do as the new GM is to dismiss the Roy as HC talk. Forget it, this is a young team that needs a Joel Quennville type of coach. Not Hartley, but Quinn, someone like that. Not someone who has zero experience as an NHL head coach. No way.

The same Quenneville they just canned?

Here's the truth: Roy will be hired as coach. Then a new GM will be hired with the knowledge that he only holds the title of GM and that the real GM, as always, is Pete Lacroix.

SeawaySensFan wrote:The same Quenneville they just canned?

Here's the truth: Roy will be hired as coach. Then a new GM will be hired with the knowledge that he only holds the title of GM and that the real GM, as always, is Pete Lacroix.

They shouldn't have canned him in the first place. That bridge has been burned and Quenneville is happy in Chicago, but they need someone with experience to turn the franchise around. Some of the pieces are already in place - with a real goalie they could start to be fun to watch quickly.

504Heater wrote:

wprager wrote:They've got no GM. When a new GM comes in, is there any way he keeps Granato? A new GM will want his own pick, and who's to say he'll be OK with a (potential) head case like St. Patrick? I know if *I* was the GM I certainly would not want a franchise hero with no NHL coaching experience to be the head guy.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that it would be a huge mistake to interview Roy for the HC position, unless they already have a guy and he's on board with Roy.

The other possibility, of course, is that he was there for the GM's position, or some other management role.

I agree 100%. The first thing I'd do as the new GM is to dismiss the Roy as HC talk. Forget it, this is a young team that needs a Joel Quennville type of coach. Not Hartley, but Quinn, someone like that. Not someone who has zero experience as an NHL head coach. No way.

If you go back and read the previous posts, you'll see that former Av Craig Billington has been mentioned as having the inside track on the GM job.

Secondly, Roy is extremely popular in Denver with the fan base, and can leverage his relationships with Avs stars past and present, including Joe Sakic and Adam Foote.

Bob Hartley has already been mentioned as a possible member of the coaching staff that Roy would be putting together.

Ray Bourque has been mentioned as ready to step into the coaching job in Quebec should Roy move to Colorado.

davetherave wrote:
If you go back and read the previous posts, you'll see that former Av Craig Billington has been mentioned as having the inside track on the GM job.

Secondly, Roy is extremely popular in Denver with the fan base, and can leverage his relationships with Avs stars past and present, including Joe Sakic and Adam Foote.

Bob Hartley has already been mentioned as a possible member of the coaching staff that Roy would be putting together.

Ray Bourque has been mentioned as ready to step into the coaching job in Quebec should Roy move to Colorado.

They can hire Curious George as their HC for all I care, but this is a very delicate time for the Avs. They need someone who can handle the job and coach the kids. These guys might be able to, but I'd rather hire someone with a track record in the NHL. But again, they can do what they want of course.